A Defense of Christianity, in Response to Alex Linder


Alex Linder Blasting the TradYouth Project

Alex Linder Blasting the TradYouth Project

Yes, I’m responding to Alex Linder’s podcast [Not Safe For Work], and I don’t apologize for doing so. He’s an intelligent, persuasive, and charismatic White Nationalist whose hateful, profanity-laden, and sophomoric tirades are interlaced with substantial criticisms which warrant a response.

Linder suggests that I’m confused for hosting this wide range of perspectives. If so, I’ve been confused from day one of the project, having kicked it off with a Mission Statement outlining the broad coalition we’re attempting to build. Orthodox Max and Mike aren’t even “White Nationalists”, and TradYouth is inclusive of their perspectives. Their message is perfectly at home with and consistent with the overarching project here, which is designed to build dialogues, relationships, and bridges between the identitarian and traditionalist schools and communities of fellowship.

His target was our recent article by Orthodox Max (reposted by Orthodox Mike) entitled “Laying Down the Gauntlet: a Critique of Racism and Liberalism.” Beneath all the predictable atheist snark is his claim that religion is integrally universalist and therefore leads naturally and directly to racial relativism. For all of his full-throated anti-semitism, he frames Jewish subversion as a merely opportunistic infection, with the root cause of Western decline being Christianity and its aversion to his “realitarianism”. Even the vast majority of atheists are in his estimation “post-Christians”, and Christianity manages to find itself accountable for the legions of anti-Christian anti-Whites. And if the Jews are still to blame, it’s only because Christianity is supposedly a Jewish scheme.

This assertion, that “Religion and Liberalism are flip-sides of the same coin” is similar to the folk religionist variant which accuses Christians of being integrally “universalist” while their pagan religion is specifically European. Within this dichotomy, any and all abstract moral frameworks are threats to our racial survival, and Christianity merely happens to be the most prevalent threat. Conversely, our racial survival supposedly depends on adopting a moral framework similar to the modern Jewish religion, wherein you have one morality for the chosen and one morality for the goyim.

In the abstract, this seems plausible; but only in the abstract. In practice, Linder’s demonstrably incorrect. “Christianity” is a very broad term inclusive of a wide array of rather distinct traditions and belief systems. Within the podcast itself, Linder goes into detail about his own Christian Science upbringing, with a curious faith tradition which is perhaps as alien to Orthodoxy as it is to Linder’s own materialist existentialism. “Christianity” is inclusive of single seed, dual seed, British Israelite, and Latter-Day Saint denominations which all employ variants of moral parochialism. Furthermore, “Christianity” is also inclusive of “kinism“, Catholic communitarianism, and Orthodox Nationalism which adopt a “universal particularist” (or pluriversalist) approach to racial and ethnic identity.

The majority of European folk religionists and folk religionist institutions denounce “racism” as vigorously as any mainstream American Christian. Needless to say, the vast majority of humanist and existentialist atheists are vehemently anti-White. This is what’s so queer about Linder’s alleged realitarianism. If White Survival follows so naturally and directly from skepticism of Christianity and rejection of universal moral frameworks, then why are Linder and his ilk so exceedingly rare?

They’re rare because Alex Linder’s metapolitical premises are false.

Linder’s problem is that he’s an idealist. Pretensions of gritty vulgar realism aside, he’s a gifted abstract thinker at home in the realm of ideas. We’re all guilty of the perception bias whereby we project our own thinking patterns onto others. We have no other model for how others think than ourselves, so our theory of mind for those around us gravitates towards our own. In another time and place, Linder would have made a superb priest, alas the corruption of himself and of the Church in this fallen age has set the two interminably at odds. Our plight is about power, not ideas.

Under Linder’s ironically dubbed “realitarianism”, our plight is really just a matter of some bad ideas we’ve adopted. According to this magical thinking, White folks just need to brush off our Christian faith, our humanization of non-whites, and our social anxiety about taking those bold steps.

No.

Our problem is one of power dynamics, of our being under the boot heel of mercantile elites whose profiteering trumps our survival and Jewish oligarchs whose historical ressentiment of Western Christendom is the hormetic glue keeping secular Jewry in the shtetl. And the only way to transcend this power dynamic is through a vanguard of crusaders with a transcendent ideal revolting against it.

Linder, being well-versed in E. Michael Jones and other dissident Christian authors, has been thoroughly familiarized with the weight and scope of influence, blackmail, and corruption brought down upon institutional Christianity in the West. Institutional Christianity has been castrated and crippled, alongside every other institution which posed a credible threat to the Judeo-Masonic deep state. Even institutions as integrally parochial as Asatruism are parroting the anti-White line, encouraging Africans and East Asians alike to join them in worship of their Nordic nature gods. It could not possibly be more obvious that the Christian family of belief systems themselves and their “universalism” are entirely beside the point.

Moral universalism and Christianity are nowhere near the root cause of the problem. In fact, I believe that moral universalism in the form of Radical Traditionalism; and Christianity, more specifically Orthodox Christianity, are the best hope for a solution. The egoistic individualism Alex Linder promotes (without consistently subscribing to in practice) is that which Europe’s mercantile elite promoted within Christianity during the Protestant Reformation, paving the way for the cascade of subversions of identity and tradition which have followed. It’s the actual ideological entrapment which we must break free from before our identities and traditions can be effectively defended.

The belief in something transcending self (that which Linder snidely refers to as our being ants in an ant hill) is precisely what we must embrace. The deification of self which libertarians like Linder subscribe to is integrally incompatible with our survival because our survival positively requires a remnant vanguard of men and women willing and able to sacrifice themselves for the collective survival of the transcendent whole. For a man who is his own god, the cause of survival can never and will never progress beyond anonymous kvetching because that’s as far as his activism can go before it becomes a form of deicide.

Linder chortles that existentialists like themselves can confirm their godhood with the act of lifting their fingers, and yet how few of these fingers are lifted in pursuit of anything transcending self-interest in this Mercantile Age of self-worship and self-service? Can we ever expect these doughnut glaze and cheese powder encrusted fingers of the Modern World to rise in defiance of social censure, death, or even impoverishment in defense of their tribes, their ancestors, or their progeny? Linder has, to his credit, managed to relegate himself to a rather ascetic existence as a social pariah in defense of family and folk despite his stated beliefs, earning himself a prominent voice before the tens of thousands of anonymous followers for whom our worldly salvation from a horrific future as the disempowered and hated minority is little more than a scintillating intellectual exercise.

The day when arguing and fighting for our survival becomes compatible with the modern individualist paradigm will come immediately after the day that collectivists who believe in a reality transcending their lone egos lay down their lives to make that day possible.

I fancy myself a big fan of reality, too. I believe “realitarianism” is perfectly compatible with being a Christian. I’m also a big fan of science and I’m always looking for opportunities to cut through the rhetoric and abstractions in search of a firm test of our hypotheses. Linder’s hypothesis is that secular skeptical humanists can and will be effectively mobilized in defense of our identities. My hypothesis is that only a small fraction of skeptics are capable of whipping themselves into a self-sacrificial psychosis, and are only capable of doing so in brief self-glorifying stunts.

Even when the secular individualist sacrifices himself for the collective, he manages to do so as a lone individual, and make it all about himself.

In parallel with the debate between transcendent traditionalism and individualism is the debate between moral parochialism and moral universalism. Linder falsely frames this as a debate between skepticism and Christianity, though the battle lines wind through both camps, featuring skeptical universalists and parochialist Christians. I barely find the subject worthy of debate, as the better-bred White elites have always been and always will be integrally universalist on a basic genetic level. Whites, or at least the White elites, are abstraction-oriented by nature, removed from the tribalist instincts familiar to the vast majority of the world’s people (including a good share of the White folk).

You can pitch White Survival in terms which aren’t universal and abstract, but those with ears to hear visceral tribalism aren’t the cognitive or political elites capable of upending the current order. It’s a waste of time. Paganism effectively died in Rome long before Christianity made its appearance, with abstract universalism bubbling up centuries before Christianity. When the first men of European stock began putting quills to scroll in Ancient Greece, their earliest writings were abandoning their pre-civilized animism in favor of universalist abstractions. If anything, it would be more plausible to argue that early Christianity was poisoned with Hellenic moral universalism than that Europeans were poisoned with Christian moral universalism.

Not that I’m arguing that or care to argue that. Orthodox Christian Tradition is sublime and correct just the way I found it. White Survival will only be possible when Traditional Christianity reclaims its rightful place in (or near or around?) our hearts. Only then will we have men and women willing and able to make the collective humble sacrifices over decades and generations which will be necessary to rebuild our communities and identities as bulwarks against our mercantile elites and the Jewish oligarchs.

I have hope for Linder, even as he hisses and spits in my general direction, because the sacrifices he’s made contradict the degenerate egoism he’s propagating.


  • Anonymous

    The Roman Catholic church consistently opposed and undermined the Nazis, from the early 1920’s all the way up to 1945:

    Catholics and Nazis
    http://pastebin.com/hhkNxxNf

  • Ragnar Neckbeard

    Lolz, Alex actually took the bit about the Nous being located in the heart literally. Is Linder the WN king of Autism? Discuss.

    Traditionalism & metaphysics vs. atheists and Christ-haters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRMK2-XaChQ

    • Anonymous

      But metaphysics isn’t real. And neither is your mythical 1st century Palestinian Jewish Zealot apocalyptic preacher.

  • Niemca

    This piece looks interesting upon perusing the first paragraph, but I don’t think Alex Linder warrants a response. To recognize anything he says is to put your advocacy on his level. The man simply doesn’t deserve a platform in pro-White.

  • Jason

    Whites survived for thousands of years before Christianity even existed. In its original form, Zoroastrianism was for Aryans ONLY. That system may have lasted for over 1,000 years. Eventually it became corrupted and Zoroastrianism was open to everybody. And not long after that Iran fell to Islam. But the point is, Aryans seem to have kept Iran pretty White without “Christian Tradition” for a very long time. Obviously, we could point out many examples just like it.

    The worship of The One True Way is an Oriental trip, a closed form of thinking.

    It seems to me we have the odd spectacle of people, who while thoroughly modern in the sense of being scientific in their views, and fully informed of the history of religion, nevertheless trying to ape the thinking of medieval monks. I assume it’s not cynical, but it comes off as strange. It’s as if someone is trying to pretend they belief in something they couldn’t possibly believe in, because they think that’s what everyone wants to hear, as a way to ensure the survival of our people, while at the same time saying “mere” survival of a people isn’t important.

    Too clever by half?

    Well, we will see soon enough. I am hoping (very much) that as Whites become minorities in almost every country on earth, the sort of preoccupations that exist when you think you are an unassailable majority with guaranteed dominion will fade from the forefront. In nations that were 90%+ White (often almost 100%), venomous fighting over The One True Way might be the only game in town.

    But we will be faced with hard RACIAL realities very soon. Blacks want their own spokesman. So do Brown people. They aren’t interested in Hillary or anyone who look like her. Two thirds of Whites are voting as a block.

    Don’t be surprised if large numbers of Whites decide they want to survive and that they owe future generations of White children the same White environment the last 300 generations of Whites had. Even if they go to the wrong church.

    • Orthodox Mike

      Matt’s article hits the proverbial nail on the head. Glad he brought up Linders ego. Ego is one of our biggest enemies. He simply cannot under the spiritual reality of our Folks struggle and problems. I can understand that. Many of us haven’t always understood this. But VNN has always been a vehicle to basically blast everyone else, including people very dear to me, and is typical Hollywood nationalism. We fight for our Folk because of our love and ancient understanding of Family and Kin, not out of hatred for out groups or who is better or worse.

    • Orthodox Mike

      Jason, funny that you would mention the ancient Persian religion of Zarathustra. It is perhaps one of the closest to Christianity in the ancient World. The three Magi who followed the Star to Bethlehem to bow down before Jesus were Zoroastrians from Persia.

    • Hermit

      The medieval monks you use as negative example were the ones who saved the greek-roman culture by copying the manuscripts.
      Culture, religion and race are interwined; considering one one of them is shortsighted.

      I defend the white christian culture because I am white, because I am christian and because I love my culture and heritage (christian, greek and roman culture).
      If you fight only for race you may save white people but you will lose everything that made us great both before and after christianity.

      P.S. I am Mediterranean, feel free to add norse to christian, greek and roman culture.

    • Jason

      Orthodox Mike, I have recently learned a bit about the history Zoroastrianism (actually very little). I was completely unaware of it before. It’s now my understanding that Persia was seen as a superpower on par with Rome. That the three Magi were Zoroastrian is generally unknown these days. In fact, they are often portrayed as a White, Brown and Asian men these days, in keeping with multiculturalism. But Persians at that time would have almost certainly been White.

  • If more people had bothered to read “After Virtue” by MacIntyre wed have less debates over shit like this. Linders arguments are grade schoolishly flawed.

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  • Leslie H. Higgins

    Your finest piece to date, Mr. Parrott! You’ve made a very strong case, one I hope shall be spread as far abroad as possible so those unfamiliar with the scene do not rank TradYouth with the likes of Linder, or believe Radical Traditionalists agree with his rankly immoral ideas, which are unfit for any people White or otherwise.

  • johnnyarson

    If yer gonna go this route ya better be ready to don the robes n get a real church bub.

    • Orthodox Mike

      What is that supposed to mean?

    • johnnyarson

      To wit, where is the physical church? How many members does it have, how can others join it? So many questions really, and besides how can anyone be sure that this Church seeks to protect the identities of those who join it given the latest widely publicized and sensationalized fiasco that recently took place re heimbach. A vetted trad leader donning the robes and leading a congregation would neatly dispose of all these loose threads. would you volunteer your expertise to the matter mr ortho?

  • Fr. John+

    “The belief in something transcending self (that which Linder snidely refers to as our being ants in an ant hill) is precisely what we must embrace. The deification of self which libertarians like Linder subscribe to is integrally incompatible with our survival because our survival positively requires a remnant vanguard of men and women willing and able to sacrifice themselves for the collective survival of the transcendent whole. For a man who is his own god, the cause of survival can never and will never progress beyond anonymous kvetching because that’s as far as his activism can go before it becomes a form of deicide.”

    Bravo.

    I do feel, however that your assumption that the best and brightest of whites are universalist is a ‘given,’ and not a philosophical error, grounded in the last 10 centuries of the Arian errors of the West, as the recent encyclical of the Greek Church to Franky the Last, clearly argues for.

    http://orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/epistle-to-pope-francis.pdf

    No one is as Ethnocentric as an Ethnic Orthodox Church- no one! LOL

    • Anonymous

      No one is as Ethnocentric as an Ethnic Orthodox Church- no one!

      Phyletism
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyletism

      Phyletism or ethnophyletism (from Greek ἔθνος ethnos “nation” and φυλετισμός phyletismos “tribalism”) is the principle of nationalities applied in the ecclesiastical domain: in other words, the confusion between Church and nation. The term ethnophyletismos designates the idea that a local autocephalous Church should be based not on a local [ecclesial] criterion, but on an ethnophyletist, national or linguistic one. It was used at the Holy and Great [Μείζων Meizon “enlarged”] pan-Orthodox Synod in Constantinople on 10 September 1872 to qualify “phyletist (religious) nationalism,” which was condemned as a modern ecclesial heresy: the Church should not be confused with the destiny of a single nation or a single race.[1]

      On 10 August 1872 the Synod issued an official condemnation of ecclesiastical racism, or “ethno-phyletism,” as well as its theological argumentation:

      We renounce, censure and condemn racism, that is racial discrimination, ethnic feuds, hatreds and dissensions within the Church of Christ, as contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers which “support the holy Church and the entire Christian world, embellish it and lead it to divine godliness.”

      In condemning “phyletism,” the Synod in Constantinople had, in fact, defined a basic problem of modern Orthodoxy.[3]

  • Trainspotter

    Matt, that was an excellent response, and you make an excellent case. You and Linder are two of the most insightful and cutting thinkers out there, though you find yourself diametrically opposed on this issue.

    I’ll have to say that part of Linder’s podcast was a tour de force in comedic brilliance. I think it’s around the one hour, twenty one minute mark, where he discusses “Strict leprechaunial terms” and “Strict poltergeistian terms.” LOL!!!! Classic Linder, and by far my best laugh of the week.

  • Dustin

    Unfortunately I have to agree with Linder when it comes to Christianity, as much as I find him to be a disgusting individual in other ways.

    Really, Linder does not go nearly far enough. Christianity is really a sect of Judaism, and Judaism is not a race, it is a doctrine. It is the doctrine of what Nietzsche calls the mass-man. It was borne of hatred of the select-man, and it was designed to radically change the entire world from what it was (in the Age of Palaces and Pyramids). That’s why I find it so strange that “Traditionalist Christians” criticize the Republican Party for “merely defending the last Revolution”, when that’s really what Christians are doing. Christians are defending the Jewish revolution of 1200 BCE,

    I realize that both you and Heimbach grew up in Christian households, and thus a lot of your “social capital” is invested in that religion, making both of you want to stick with it. But I grew up in a Christian household too, and even from an early age I was able to discover the ugly truth as to what the religion was really all about. You need to do so too.

    Also,

    Even institutions as integrally parochial as Asatruism are parroting the anti-White line, encouraging Africans and East Asians alike to join them in worship of their Nordic nature gods.

    No, I’ve been part of both the Christian and the “Asatru” (really it’s called Indo-European Traditional Religion) scenes (the former when I was younger, the latter now that I’m an adult), and although most everybody in Western society hews to the anti-white line to some extent, the Christians go the “extra mile” in doing so. A case in point is Lifeline Expedition. So where is the “Asatru” gothi who has traveled to Haiti and Africa wearing yokes and chains and humiliating the European people in this way? *Crickets chirping.*

    So you say this is not “Real Christianity” but heresy? Ok, then where’s the condemnation of this from any major Christian figure? From the Catholic Pope? The leader of the Orthodox Church? A major bishop? The priest who refused Matt Heimbach communion recently? *Crickets chirping.*

    It’s time for you guys to wake up and smell the coffee.

  • Dustin

    Unfortunately I have to agree with Linder when it comes to Christianity, as much as I find him to be a disgusting individual in other ways.

    Really, Linder does not go nearly far enough. Christianity is really a sect of Judaism, and Judaism is not a race, it is a doctrine. It is the doctrine of what Nietzsche calls the mass-man. It was borne of hatred of the select-man, and it was designed to radically change the entire world from what it was (in the Age of Palaces and Pyramids). That’s why I find it so strange that “Traditionalist Christians” criticize the Republican Party for “merely defending the last Revolution”, when that’s really what Christians are doing. Christians are defending the Jewish revolution of 1200 BCE,

    I realize that both you and Heimbach grew up in Christian households, and thus a lot of your “social capital” is invested in that religion, making both of you want to stick with it. But I grew up in a Christian household too, and even from an early age I was able to discover the ugly truth as to what the religion was really all about. You need to do so too.

    Also,

    Even institutions as integrally parochial as Asatruism are parroting the anti-White line, encouraging Africans and East Asians alike to join them in worship of their Nordic nature gods.

    No, I’ve been part of both the Christian and the “Asatru” (really it’s called Indo-European Traditional Religion) scenes (the former when I was younger, the latter now that I’m an adult), and although most everybody in Western society hews to the anti-white line to some extent, the Christians go the “extra mile” in doing so. A case in point is Lifeline Expedition. So where is the “Asatru” gothi who has traveled to Haiti and Africa wearing yokes and chains and humiliating the European people in this way? *Crickets chirping.*

    So you say this is not “Real Christianity” but heresy? Ok, then where’s the condemnation of this from any major Christian figure? From the Catholic Pope? The leader of the Orthodox Church? A major bishop? The priest who refused Matt Heimbach communion recently? *Crickets chirping.* It’s time for you guys to wake up and smell the coffee.

    • Matt Parrott

      Dustin,

      Christianity is really a sect of Judaism, and Judaism is not a race, it is a doctrine.

      Christianity is the antithesis of Judaism (Pharisaism), its definitive refutation.

      It is the doctrine of what Nietzsche calls the mass-man.

      Jesus of Nazareth’s[1] ministry was largely to and about mass-man, but his message was emphatically not one of untermenschen ressentiment. What he delivered was an alternative to the ressentiment which has gone on to poison and curse the Jewish people beyond measure in the centuries since they rejected His alternative. That he was himself a Jew and his ministry was among Jews makes sense, as he was where the message against virulent hatred was needed the most.

      [I]t was designed to radically change the entire world from what it was (in the Age of Palaces and Pyramids).

      No. It was designed to respond to a decadent, confused, and declining world following the Age of Palaces and Pyramids. The Classical World had surpassed its zenith, and was firmly in decline, in both Spenglerian and material terms. The theme of “rebirth” in both Christianity and in the competing mystery cults of the period resonated precisely because the stench of death, of sociocultural and spiritual exhaustion, pervaded the Age.

      I realize that both you and Heimbach grew up in Christian households, and thus a lot of your “social capital” is invested in that religion, making both of you want to stick with it. But I grew up in a Christian household too, and even from an early age I was able to discover the ugly truth as to what the religion was really all about. You need to do so too.

      False. Heimbach grew up in a Christian household while I’m a “cradle atheist”. Aside from a brief and abortive foray into Mormonism at around eight which left little impression, my upbringing was firmly secular. I can’t speak for Heimbach or anybody else on this subject, but I discovered Traditional Christianity as a mature adult, concluding that Nietzsche’s critique of it was grossly flawed.

      No, I’ve been part of both the Christian and the “Asatru” (really it’s called Indo-European Traditional Religion) scenes (the former when I was younger, the latter now that I’m an adult), and although most everybody in Western society hews to the anti-white line to some extent, the Christians go the “extra mile” in doing so. A case in point is Lifeline Expedition. So where is the “Asatru” gothi who has traveled to Haiti and Africa wearing yokes and chains and humiliating the European people in this way?

      Indo-European Traditional Religionists (Does every pagan insist on a different label?) are a statistical rounding error, so it’s unsurprising that we don’t have nearly as many examples of Indo-European Traditional Religionists doing wacky stuff.

      So you say this is not “Real Christianity” but heresy? Ok, then where’s the condemnation of this from any major Christian figure?

      This age is indeed so thoroughly anti-white and the churches are so completely subverted that not one prominent religious figure (Christian or pagan) is willing to stand up in public and insist that our people have a right to exist and determine our own destiny as a distinct people. It is certainly embarrassing for my position that the clergy desperately scramble for cover like cockroaches from a lightbulb from the oligarchs arbitrating Modern opinion, tripping over their own canons and traditions hither and thither to avoid committing mercantile egalitarian heresies.

      I don’t believe that’s a defect of Christianity, but of contemporary Christians.

      1: I code-switch from calling him the Christ to “Jesus of Nazareth” from time to time when debating with skeptics when I surmise that asserting His divinity would distract from the temporal point being made.

    • Orthodox Mike

      We do not support a so called Jewish revolution… We support God’s counter revolution to Jewish and pagan decadence that was the order of the day. YOU wake up and smell the coffee, sir! Excellent response, Matt. It is not the Church that is wrong, rather the lukewarm and modernizers within Her that are dead wrong.

    • Anonymous

      Christianity is the antithesis of Judaism (Pharisaism), its definitive refutation.

      No it isn’t. The main substantive difference between Christianity and Judaism is that Christianity is universalist and egalitarian whereas Judaism is particularist and hierarchical. Judaism is a racial supremacist religion built around the needs of one specific ethnic group. Christianity is a racial egalitarian confessional religion explicitly designed for all races and ethnicities.

      The sentiments expressed by Jesus in the NT gospels are not original nor new. They can all be found in the Tanakh and the Babylonian Talmud. I’m referring here particularly to Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount.

      Paul didn’t view himself as founding a new religion. He viewed his actions as a method of bringing gentiles into the nation of Israel and making them part of the Jewish people.

      Racial egalitarianism is not some modern “corruption” of Christian thought. It is a core doctrine of Christian theology that was present from the very beginning:

      For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on him;
      – Romans 10:12

      For by one spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one spirit.
      – 1 Corinthians 12:13

      There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
      – Galatians 3:28

      a renewal in which there is no distinction between Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and freeman, but Christ is all, and in all.
      – Colossians 3:11

    • Orthodox Mike

      So, following your ‘logic’ to its final conclusion, Mr Anonymous, there should be no problem with gay ‘marriage’, no priests, bishops, or any gender distinctions or directives concerning such, but guess what? Christianity does teach these things and is hierarchical and patriarchal and pro traditional marriage, etc.

    • Anonymous

      Orthodox Mike,

      There are indeed several passages in the New Testament which could be construed as patriarchal and hierarchical. However, all of these particular passages fit into one of two categories. They are either 1.) interpolations or 2.) contained in books which are pseudepigraphic:

      Interpolations
      1 Corinthians 11:2–16
      1 Corinthians 14:34–35

      Pseudepigraphic
      Ephesians 5:22-24
      Colossians 3:18
      1 Timothy 2:9-15
      1 Timothy 4:7
      Titus 2:3-5
      1 Peter 3:1-6

    • Anonymous

      As far as Christianity being “pro traditional marriage”, Paul clearly instructs his readers to avoid marriage if at all possible:

      1 Corinthians 7:1, 1 Corinthians 7:8, 1 Corinthians 7:26-29, 1 Corinthians 7:33-35

      Jesus frequently disparages family and marriage, in addition to promoting male castration:

      Matthew 10:21, Matthew 10:35-37, Matthew 12:46-50, Matthew 19:12, Matthew 19:29, Matthew 23:9, Mark 3:31-35, Mark 10:29-30, Mark 13:12, Luke 8:19-21, Luke 12:52-53, Luke 14:26, Luke 18:29-30, Luke 20:35, Luke 21:16

    • Orthodox Mike

      Anonymous, please spare me your modernist exegeses. The Church Fathers make interpretation of the Scriptures and Church Dogma quite clear, as do the Seven Ecumenical Councils.

    • Anonymous

      Sorry, Mike, but I don’t need church hucksters and con-men to tell me what the bible says. I can read it for myself.

    • Orthodox Mike

      THAT explains much, Anon… I thought you were the private interpretation type.

    • Matt Parrott

      Setup: “The Bible’s so intuitively obvious and I’m pretty smart. I don’t need Church Tradition.”

      Punchline: “The Bible says [bunch of wild and extreme conclusions absolutely nobody else has arrived at].”

  • Lew

    I didn’t listen to Linder’s comments, but I think I’m familiar enough with his views from past readings to assert basic agreement with the substance of his position if not the style.

    Incidentally, where is that person who recently defended Shia Islam here on Trad Youth now that Iran and the highest Shia authorities have climbed in with the US government?

  • Aaron Gross

    “these doughnut glaze and cheese powder encrusted fingers of the Modern World”

    LOL, love it!

  • Todd Lewis

    “Linder’s hypothesis is that secular skeptical humanists can and will be effectively mobilized in defense of our identities. ”

    Stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Atheism is doomed to die.

    “It is a great irony but evolution appears to discriminate against atheists and favour those with religious beliefs,” said Michael Blume, a researcher at the University of Jena in Germany who carried out the study. “Most societies or communities that have espoused atheistic beliefs have not survived more than a century.”

    http://www.scilogs.eu/en/blog/biology-of-religion/2011-01-06/atheists-a-dying-breed-as-nature-favours-faithful-sunday-times-jan-02-2011-jonathan-leake-full-draft-version

    Fact’s of history, atheism is doomed.

    One century bro. Actually less Linder is on borrowed time.

    Question home many kids does Lindler have? That is the measure of his efforts to save the white race. If there are too few white people, make more of them. A husband and wife who have five children or more are infinitely more valuable than a spiting atheist hack on saving the white race.

Alex Linder Blasting the TradYouth Project

By: Matt Parrott


Matt is a founding member of TradYouth and is currently the project's Chief Information Officer. He's been active in the White Identity cause for years, primarily as a blogger but also as a street activist and regional organizer.
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