The Ukrainian Subversion


The Alternative Right and Traditionalist movement has been split over the events in Ukraine and Crimea over the last several months. Folks taking multiple sides has threatened to do damage not only to the Traditionalist movement but to Orthodoxy unity in the region and coalitions of nationalists around the globe. A “will they, won’t they” over the question if forces would topple President Viktor Yanukovych kept the world watching as a motley crew of various factions united with one goal: overthrow the government of Ukraine. 7x0uw

Staged like a summer blockbuster straight out of Hollywood, the “evil” government of Ukraine was overthrown, flowers were thrown from every rooftop, and the “good guys” win the day. Although there were many factions with many different spokesmen and stated objectives in the Ukrainian struggle, it is clear that as the dust now settles over Kiev, organized Jewry is undeniably in charge.

To open Ukraine to the powers of International Jewry would allow an expansion of the European Union into the traditional Russian sphere of influence. While the EU pushes international capitalism, a flood of Third World immigrants, the depravity of homosexuality, and secularism, Russia supports Faith, Family, and Folk. To work to destabilize Russia and increase Jewry’s power would not only fill the coffers of the globalists, but work to dismantle another Traditional society and replace it with a spirit of globalism and decadence.

The narrative chosen by the System had developed a flavor for every possible demographic to court the greatest degree of both Ukrainian and global support for the faux “revolution”. Nationalists were shown videos of Ukrainian groups like Right Sector flying Celtic cross flags and talking about taking their nation back. Liberal reformers around the globe were shown students fighting for democracy, gay rights, and secularism against a seemingly archaic and backwards country.

Instead of the Western backed coup that is was, the airwaves were alight on liberal publications throughout the West about anarchists and anti-fascists fighting a fascist State, while the same media simultaneously was promoting a nationalist angle to a different segment of the population. To bring sympathy to the protesters, stories of government sponsored snipers hunting down political activists and killing them in cold blood became a huge talking point in the West. This story however fell apart after it became evident through leaked phone conversations that the new regime had contracted snipers to not only kill innocent police officers, but to kill protesters for political gain.

A phone conversation with Estonia’s Foreign Minister Urmas Paet included the Minister telling EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton “all the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and then people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides.” The blood of innocent men and women was shed upon the streets of Kiev to become political points in a propaganda battle for the globalist sponsored opposition, this from the beginning should discredit the new Ukrainian regime.

Moderates had old Cold War propaganda trotted out about how the Ukrainian government was an evil appendage of a tyrannical neo-Soviet Russian State. At the end of it all; however, as Christ told us in Scripture “You can tell a tree by its fruits.” The fruits of the overthrow of the Ukrainian government has not been a resurgent nationalism or  fundamental change in the national character; the fruits of the revolution are a Jewish-dominated EU-oriented economy and political system which is doing everything it can to globalize and pillage the Ukrainian State and the Ukrainian people.

As a classic Polish proverb reads “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you” and that is exactly what is going on in the Ukraine. While a narrative swirling throughout global media tells of the threat of neo-nazis taking over the country, this perspective is not in line with reality. Controlled opposition groups and genuine protesters at the fringe of Ukrainian society are put in front of the cameras, but the powers that be are already entrenching themselves deep into the legal, economic, and political systems of the new Ukraine.

I empathize with Ukrainians who desire to strengthen their nation and promote Traditional values, but much like America’s so-called “nationalist” movement, the grassroots opposition is mostly astro-turfed from the top down. Many good-hearted and God-fearing patriots in Ukraine have attempted to do what they thought was right, but have been led to the cultural slaughterhouse by the traitors and Jews in charge of the new government.

To ensure resistance to the new regime would be impossible, one of the first moves of the new government was to start a gun grab, specifically from nationalist militias and potential enemies of the Zionist Occupied Government. The new Jewish Prime Minister of Ukraine told television audiences “For those who want to defend their country with an assault rifle in their hands, welcome to the National Guard or the Army,” Now that the people of Ukraine shed their blood in service to the Zionist and globalist overlords it is time to disarm them to ensure a compliant populace.

Reports from Ukraine seem to indicate that pro-regime militias have not been disarmed, demonstrating that the issue has nothing to do with weapons, only stopping true nationalists and anyone who may have sympathy with Russia and making sure that selected traitors to the Ukrainian people who are loyal to the new Kiev government have the power and government protection to rule over the masses.

While nationalist groups like Right Sector have been propped up with finances and support to play a crucial role in the revolution, they were being led and infiltrated by organized Jewry from the very beginning. The majority of the membership of groups like Right Sector are undeniably dedicated nationalists, but with a poisoned leadership well this has resulted in them becoming unwilling stooges of the European Union and International Jewry. Right Sector leader Dmitry Yarosh recently denied allegations of racial beliefs and fascist leanings and instead went into a tirade attacking President Putin of Russia and the Russian people while stating that “Jews and other nationals feel comfortable in our forces”. While Russian patriots stand strong for Orthodoxy, Tradition, and the Russian folk, the leadership of artificial opposition groups in Ukrainian masquerading as nationalists have only the worship of their enslavement as a policy platform.

British National Party leader Nick Griffin pointed out to Russia Today in a recent interview that “Leftists, capitalists, and Zionists who are not the least bit interested in Ukrainian freedom” are the ones manipulating Ukrainian nationalist movements for their own nefarious purposes. Recently the Greek nationalist Party Golden Dawn also came out against the Ukrainian faux nationalists by saying “they (Right Sector and other nationalist groups in Ukraine) are having a very good communication with the American Jewish community which is the one that is attacking us in the first place at Greece.” If it smells like a Jewish plot, looks like a Jewish plot, and acts like a Jewish plot… It probably is a Jewish plot.

Propped up nationalist leader Aleksandr Muzychko played an important part of the propaganda campaign for the System during the Revolution. Now that nationalists have become an unwanted nuisance in Ukraine, men like Aleksandr Muzychko are being dealt with, one way or the other. Even though Right Sector’s leader met with the Israeli ambassador and told him that the Ukrainian nationalist “movement rejects anti-Semitism and xenophobia and will not tolerate it” that was not enough to avoid being put on a Jewish hit list. He said their goals were a democratic Ukraine, transparent government, ending corruption, and equal opportunity for all ethnic groups.A government hit squad gunned down Mr. Muzychko and other nationalists over the past weeks, securing that any leadership for nationalists, no matter how corrupted, wouldn’t survive to cause trouble down the line.

The amount of Jewish influence in the new Ukrainian nation is almost unbelievable to the new Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk who is Jewish to the fact that an overwhelming amount of the politicians running for the new government, One such example is Vadim Rabinovich, a Jewish multimillionaire who is running for President of Ukraine. Not only is Mr. Rabinovich the owner and co-founder of Jewish News One and co-chair of the European Jewish Parliament but he also holds an Israeli passport. Dedicated to “stamping out anti-Semitism” and working for free markets, Rabinovich is a candidate who is looking to pry open every part of the Ukraine to plundering by globalist interests.

The pillaging of the Ukrainian people has begun, and not without fair warning. It is no wonder why the ethnic and cultural Russian people of Crimea voted over ninety percent to join the Russia Motherland instead of staying in the new Ukrainian State. First and foremost the Jewish Prime Minister has put Jewish capitalists in charge as governors of various regions through the country, without a single vote being cast in their name. Gas and electricity prices are skyrocketing, making many Ukrainians have to pick between keeping their lights on and feeding their families.

Guns seizures, food lines, and an increasingly controlled media are starving the Ukrainian people of their ability to protect their families, feed their children, and know what is going on in their own neighborhoods. The Jewish subversion of Ukraine has stolen money, land, and identity from Ukrainians and attempted to sever her connections to Faith, Family, and Folk. Only through rejecting global Jewry and International Capitalism can the people of Ukraine be free to form their own destiny. Until the Jews and globalists and thrown out however, Ukraine shall remain a new colony of Zionism and the West. The only solution to this problem is simple: throw the globalists down the well, so Ukraine can be free.


  • What are the names of these alleged “Jews”, and why are you the only one who “knows” this?

    • Johann
    • DAVE

      What are the names of these alleged “Jews”, and why are you the only one who “knows” This comment indicates to me that you have not fully read the article if you are going to make a comment please read it again and then come back.

    • You cite David Duke as a reliable, noteworthy and rational source of information? He was a Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, a cowardly group hiding behind masks, dedicated to eradicating all Africans from the face of the Earth, and all Jews and their intermarried descendants. He is a neo-nazi, who claims the Holocaust never happened. This in itself is a paradox, because since he is dedicated to the extermination of every last Jew on the planet, you would think that he would have no problem celebrating evidence everyone else has seen with our own eyes, that according to German official records 12 million were exterminated in Nazi concentration camps, of whom 6 million were Jews.

      The last estimate (2012) of world Jewish population is 13,854,800, which is an infinitesimal 0.196%, less than a 1/5 of 1 per cent of the global population. Portraying minorities like Jews and homosexuals as a threat to civilsation that will bring about “the end of the world as we know it”, is paranoid and delusional fear mongering, since in both cases, there is no chance of such minuscule demographics achieving world dominance. Certainly, homosexuals cannot on any rational or empirical grounds do so, since we are born to heterosexual parents, so they only way you can exterminate us, is to kill all heterosexual parents to be sure we’re never born in the first place.

      Exit polls from the last 3 US Census 2004, 2008 and 2012 show 4% identifying as openly gay. Add a conservative 1% for those in the closet and apply the resulting 5% to the current 7 billion global population and you have 350 million homosexuals to kill. World War II “only” managed to kill 50 million people in 6 years, with all the world’s ordnance, so it will take you 7×6 = 42 years to kill all gays alive today, during which time hundreds of millions more will be born as I was, to heterosexual parents.

      Logic, common sense and evidence have never stopped imperialist supremacists from peddling their nonsense.

  • You cite David Duke as a reliable, noteworthy and rational source of information? He was a Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, a cowardly group hiding behind masks, dedicated to eradicating all Africans from the face of the Earth, and all Jews and their intermarried descendants. He is a neo-nazi, who claims the Holocaust never happened. This in itself is a paradox, because since he is dedicated to the extermination of every last Jew on the planet, you would think that he would have no problem celebrating evidence everyone else has seen with our own eyes, that according to German official records 12 million were exterminated in Nazi concentration camps, of whom 6 million were Jews.

    The last estimate (2012) of world Jewish population is 13,854,800, which is an infinitesimal 0.196%, less than a 1/5 of 1 per cent of the global population. Portraying minorities like Jews and homosexuals as a threat to civilsation that will bring about “the end of the world as we know it”, is paranoid and delusional fear mongering, since in both cases, there is no chance of such minuscule demographics achieving world dominance. Certainly, homosexuals cannot on any rational or empirical grounds do so, since we are born to heterosexual parents, so they only way you can exterminate us, is to kill all heterosexual parents to be sure we’re never born in the first place.

    Exit polls from the last 3 US Census 2004, 2008 and 2012 show 4% identifying as openly gay. Add a conservative 1% for those in the closet and apply the resulting 5% to the current 7 billion global population and you have 350 million homosexuals to kill. World War II “only” managed to kill 50 million people in 6 years, with all the world’s ordnance, so it will take you 7×6 = 42 years to kill all gays alive today, during which time hundreds of millions more will be born as I was, to heterosexual parents.

    Logic, common sense and evidence have never stopped imperialist supremacists from peddling their nonsense.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “…Ku Klux Klan, a cowardly group hiding behind masks, dedicated to eradicating all Africans from the face of the Earth, and all Jews and their intermarried descendants”

      Wow, Derek, that’s really interesting. So, in Derek’s Bizarro Version of History, the goal of the KKK was to exterminate all blacks across the planet, and I suppose open up a chain of Piggly Wigglies in the newly cleansed Nigeria? Or maybe they’d have to hold off on the backyard barbecues in an all white Kenya, at least until they invaded Israel to carry out the extermination?

      Do you have any supporting evidence for these utterly absurd and nonsensical claims that you routinely make? Yeah…didn’t think so.

      And as an afterthought, does the fact that David Duke left the KKK literally decades ago mean that he renounced his alleged desire to go muddin in Mozambique after the extermination?

  • Ingoldo

    Oh great, now Mr Williams – who by the way does his best to dispel the stereotype of homosexuals being hysterical, self obsessed and whiny people by his repeated comments here – feels the urge to chime on issues other than two men abusing and hurting their nether parts. And it’s a goodie, too: coward Klansmen cleansing Africa with fire and brimstone, German official records containing detailed accounts of 12,000,000 murders and (not) last but definitely not least Jewish numerical powerlessness-Oy vey indeed. I’m glad I haven’t undergone any surgery recently or I’d tear my stitches…

    As for the article: I’m sorry to say it’s rather one-sided – just because Leftist media say one thing, opposite isn’t neccesarily the truth. Of course nationalists are outnumbered and enormously outspent, but their odds are still much better than in the rest of Whit-o-sphere, even Greece. History is open to a certain extent. Jews and their allies/puppets are not all-knowing, all-powerful superior beings. They don’t control everything, and never will.
    Svoboda(which isnt even mentioned by Matthew-bit convenient isnt it?) and Right Sector come across as overtly and bitterly Russophobic, but then again there are good reasons to distrust Russian elites, even if they are not as rotten as Western ones.
    If Russia has indeed become main antagonist of ‘The Forces of the Night’, it’s by default, not by its inate goodnes and love of eternal Truth and Tradition, I’m afraid.

    • You didn’t rebut anything I said by saying you were (laughing?) so hard you’d “tear your stitches” if you had “had surgery”. My “repeated comments here” are matched or exceeded in number by yours and those of other correspondents, but apparently it’s just us gays who are “hysterical, self obsessed and whiny people” when we RESPOND.

      David Duke is being held up as an example of your thinking, and its evident that he is intent on extermination of all human beings other than people like himself.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “David Duke is being held up as an example of your thinking, and its evident that he is intent on extermination of all human beings other than people like himself.”

      This is such a ridiculous, absurd and dishonest statement as to be stunning, even coming from someone of your, shall we say, less than stellar, and far less than honest, caliber. You demand links from others proving that 2+2=4 and the sky is blue, about facts that are well documented and well established, yet you feel free to make astonishingly absurd and absolutely untrue claims such as this without any supporting evidence whatsoever.

      David Duke, whatever his flaws, has an extensive and easily accessible wealth of information online, in the form of articles, books, and podcasts. He’s on the radio virtually every day and has a long and well documented history in the public eye. Whatever his flaws, the idea that he advocates the extermination of all those unlike himself is so absurd that only a congenital liar could utter such a thing. In other words: you.

      There are few individuals on the planet that have more publicly accessible statements available than David Duke. Can you find even ONE that supports your absurd claim that “…he is intent on extermination of all human beings other than people like himself?”

      Again, you have an incredible wealth of material to draw upon in order to support your absurd and dishonest claim. Of course, the truth is that David Duke is obviously not intent on exterminating anyone, nor is anybody here. Our cause is about securing the existence of our people, and that’s exactly what we’re going to do, the dishonesty and hatred of anti-whites notwithstanding.

      The shockingly cavalier manner in which you defame the names of men far better than yourself is disgusting. I’d say that the other poster’s characterization of you as “hysterical, self obsessed and whiny” is far, far too generous. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: you’re just an anti-white liar, and deserve no better description.

    • Duke espouses the ideology of the KKK and is rabidly antisemitic. By holding him up as exemplar of your ideology, you identify with his ideology (delete spaces to open links):

      h t t p ://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/David_Duke
      h t t p ://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

      Why do you back the KKK? Why do you support antisemitism?

    • Matt Parrott

      Derek,

      Why do you back the KKK? Why do you support antisemitism?

      The situation with David Duke is more complicated than that, and he hasn’t been affiliated or associated with the Klan since before I was born.

      I think even you agree that we’ve been affording you a pretty open platform to argue your position. But if you can’t resist the urge to throw around purely speculative and inflammatory accusations like you did there, then you’ll no longer be welcome here.

    • I went to the David Duke link provided and found it flooded with anti-Jewish propaganda. I also researched Duke himself, and found his affiliation with the KKK to be key to his ideology, whether he is directly now associated with it as ‘Grand Wizard’ or not. David Duke was cited by a correspondent as evidence to support the article’s contention that “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you” and that “Jewish-dominated EU-oriented economy and political system which is doing everything it can to globalize and pillage the Ukrainian State and the Ukrainian people.”

      The whole article is inflammatory against Jews, yet no-one has supplied a response that identifies ill-intentioned Jews in numbers sufficient to bring about the downfall of the world’s financial system, or to explain why it is in the interests uniquely of Jews to do so.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “Why do you back the KKK?”

      I don’t back the KKK. By the way, when did you stop beating your “wife?”

      Derek Williams: “Why do you support antisemitism?”

      Why are you anti-white?

    • I am not anti-white. There isn’t a single word I have typed that could lead you to this false conclusion. By contrast, your blog is anti-gay, antisemitic and racist, and David Duke was adduced as exemplar for your manifesto. David Duke was a member of the KKK and has not to my knowledge renounced the organisation, moreover his site is rabidly antisemitic.

      There is evidence to support my conclusions, but none to support yours.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “I went to the David Duke link provided and found it flooded with anti-Jewish propaganda.”

      You claimed, falsely and absurdly, that Duke advocates the “extermination” of all who are unlike him. When I called you out on this ridiculous and defamatory lie, you didn’t take the opportunity to rectify the situation and back off from your astonishingly dishonest claim.

      I always give you an out, Derek, and you are always too dumb to take it. You could have saved at least some face, not to mention a shred of integrity, by admitting your mistake and chalking it up to hyperbole. Instead, you doubled down on the lies! What a clown you are.

      Out of the “flood” of information that you found in your supposed research, you offer two alleged quotes from Duke (I say alleged not because I have a problem with the quotes, but simply because I wouldn’t trust you further than I could throw you):

      “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you”

      “Jewish-dominated EU-oriented economy and political system which is doing everything it can to globalize and pillage the Ukrainian State and the Ukrainian people.”

      Wow Derek, you really nailed Duke there! It’s so clear to me now! Those two quotes clearly expose David as advocating the extermination of all those unlike him.

      Except that they don’t. As in not at all, in any way, shape or form. As in no remotely honest, sane individual could look at the quotes that you offer and conclude that Duke was advocating extermination of anyone. On the other hand, many an honest and sane man would look at those quotes and conclude that they are quite true, and accurately reflect realities as they exist in the world. But extermination? Obviously not.

      But to you, apparently, Duke’s criticism of the behavior of organized Jewry equals a demand for extermination. I suppose that Jews are the chosen ones for you, Derek, and any criticism of them is tantamount to calls for their genocide. To you, it is fun to be anti-white, but Jews are beyond criticism.

      Derek, your anti-white lunacy has severed your ties to reality, replacing it with nonsense and dishonesty. Is clinging to your anti-white cult really worth your mental health, and what little integrity you may have left?

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “By contrast, your blog is anti-gay, antisemitic and racist, and David Duke was adduced as exemplar for your manifesto.”

      Um, what? I don’t have a blog. I don’t have a manifesto. What on god’s green earth are you talking about?

      Then I remember who I’m talking to. It’s Derek! Reality and truth are optional to him.

      Derek Williams: “David Duke was a member of the KKK and has not to my knowledge renounced the organisation, moreover his site is rabidly antisemitic”

      Even the most cursory research on Duke would reveal that he left the KKK literally decades ago. You claim to work at a university, and yet you seem utterly incompetent at the most basic of research. How is that, Derek? Doesn’t stop you from making dishonest, defamatory and obviously untrue claims, though.

      Derek Williams: “There is evidence to support my conclusions, but none to support yours.”

      LOL! You’ve got to be kidding me. The only “evidence” that supports your ludicrous and defamatory conclusions exists in the fever swamps of your rabid anti-white imagination. Stop lying, Derek, if that’s even possible for you anymore.

    • Learn to read. Here is what I wrote:

      ‘David Duke was cited by a correspondent as evidence to support the article’s contention that “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you” and that “Jewish-dominated EU-oriented economy and political system which is doing everything it can to globalize and pillage the Ukrainian State and the Ukrainian people.”’

      The article to which this thread is subordinate DOES make these statements. I never attributed them to David Duke. Having told this lie, you then go on to tell another, that I said you personally had a blog and a manifesto. I said no such thing.

      This site is a blog, and it has a manifesto. You are a supportive contributor to this blog and unless you’re now going to say you’re opposed to its aims, you’ve de facto signed up to its racist, homophobic, antisemitic manifesto. In the same sense that the city you live in is “your city”, this blog is “your blog” and its manifesto “your manifesto”.

      Your abundant use of ‘LOL’ with exaggerated, inflammatory and contemptuous language runs in breach of the guidelines laid down by Mr Parrott, who by contrast to your goodself, doesn’t resort to such childishness.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “Learn to read.”

      Or perhaps you should learn to write? You claim, absurdly and falsely, that David Duke advocates the “extermination” of all those unlike him. I call you out on this outrageous lie, and point out that Duke has tons of material online. Despite access to all of this material, you still have not provided a single quote from Duke that supports your shameless lies and false claims about him.

      Derek Williams: “The article to which this thread is subordinate DOES make these statements. I never attributed them to David Duke.”

      Sigh. I did misread that. I very foolishly gave you credit for some residual degree of sanity, credit where absolutely none was deserved. Instead of providing two quotes from Duke himself, like a sane person would have done, you bizarrely say this this:

      Derek Williams: “David Duke was cited by a correspondent as evidence to support the article’s contention that…(followed by the two quotes)”

      So your *proof* that David Duke advocates the “extermination” of all those unlike him, is that Duke was cited by a correspondent in an article that claimed that “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you” and that the EU was trying to pillage the Ukraine?

      That’s your proof? Of Duke advocating extermination!?! You’re not only an idiot, you’re a bona fide nut. A terrible writer, an utterly incompetent researcher (even cursory research would reveal Duke left the KKK decades ago, despite your absurd claims to the contrary), and congenitally dishonest.

      Derek Williams: “In the same sense that the city you live in is “your city”, this blog is “your blog” and its manifesto “your manifesto”.”

      No it isn’t. I think highly of the Matts, and agree with them far more than I disagree, but I’m responsible for my own own words and those of no one else. Nor should my words and positions be attributed to the Matts. I have no problem with a broad and generic “we” concerning the Trad Youth project (though the Matts might, I don’t know), but not to the point of micro attributions and minutia. I’m just an occasional commenter here, calling out an anti-white liar.

      Derek Williams: “Your abundant use of ‘LOL’ with exaggerated, inflammatory and contemptuous language runs in breach of the guidelines laid down by Mr Parrott…”

      A liar like yourself, making clearly false, dishonest and defamatory statements about men far better than yourself, is in no position to complain about a “lol.”

      You tell shameless lies about others, but a friggin lol directed at you is just too much!! LOL! In other words: Derek cries out in pain as he strikes you. Now where have I heard that before?

    • “So your *proof* that David Duke advocates the “extermination” of all those unlike him, is that Duke was cited by a correspondent in an article that claimed that “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you” and that the EU was trying to pillage the Ukraine? ”

      No, I didn’t write that, nor anything like it. Stop lying.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “No, I didn’t write that, nor anything like it. Stop lying.”

      What do you mean you didn’t write anything like that?!? Here is the direct quote from your post in this thread, copied and pasted:

      Derek Williams: “David Duke was cited by a correspondent as evidence to support the article’s contention that “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you” and that “Jewish-dominated EU-oriented economy and political system which is doing everything it can to globalize and pillage the Ukrainian State and the Ukrainian people.”

      That’s EXACTLY what you wrote, you ridiculous lunatic. To lurkers out there, take note: this is what being an anti-white traitor does to you. These people have to lie so much, constantly and about everything, that eventually that’s all they are: pathetic, depraved liars.

      Derek is further gone than most, and now bizarrely denies what he has clearly written in this very thread. He’s graduated from clown to lunatic. Though I’m sure I’ll manage, for now I can’t even muster a good laugh at the expense of this depraved, anti-white loon. But wait, here it comes: LOL!

      What does a crazy anti-white ideology benefit a man if it costs him his soul? Or even the most residual level of integrity? Derek never bothered asking these questions, but men of character should.

    • This “conversation” is already pointless, but it’s even worse if you cannot read. Nowhere in that statement am I attributing those words to Duke. They were written by the author of the article. Duke was cited as evidence to support the contention of the article that “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you” as below:

      Johann said on April 3, 2014
      http://davidduke.com/

      I researched the article and suggest you do likewise. Now stop lying.

    • David Duke may be better than you, but he is certainly not better than me, and widely despised. I am not a racist, a white supremacist, an antisemite, a misogynist nor a homophobe, all attributes of arguments I see running through this contemptuous thread.

      Hate is not a solid foundation upon which to build your future. It is not supposed to be any part of Christianity that adherents to this blog espouse.

    • Trainspotter

      It’s not my board, and I don’t presume to set the ground rules, but I’ll offer some unasked advice to the Matts.

      I don’t mind, and in fact enjoy, having anti-whites post on this board. I’ve tried to keep it civil with guys like Lamp and Spelunker. I’ll even go so far as to give them the benefit of the doubt that their goal is to prevent some potential nutcase from going off the deep end and doing something really stupid. Maybe this generosity of spirit on my part is misguided, but in any event, I’ve kept it more civil than not, and I think they have too.

      But it seems to me that, if an anti-white is going to post in the white nationalist sphere, there should be at least some minimal level of honesty in the debate, and some minimal recognition of what the white nationalist cause is all about, at least as we are trying to define it. Not a requirement to agree, of course. But certainly a minimal requirement not to flagrantly lie, defame, and grossly misrepresent.

      Derek has clearly and shamelessly crossed that line, and many times at that. I think there is some value, for the benefit of lurkers, in showing him up as an ignorant, dishonest anti-white, which is why I have taken the time to do so on several threads. But at the same time, he shouldn’t be free to defame and grossly misrepresent our Cause. He shouldn’t be free to, however ludicrously, deny and lie about what he has written on this very site! (that’s a new one for me – the guy will lie about absolutely anything)

      So my unasked for advice is this: if he keeps this up, at least temporarily ban him. If he wants to come back and engage in something resembling honest debate, fine. Otherwise, he should be gone. We have been using Derek for our purposes, not his, and he has played his role quite well. But there is a point where participation becomes pollution.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “Nowhere in that statement am I attributing those words to Duke.”

      Yes, you clarified that, it’s not in dispute. But why a sane person would claim that Duke advocates the extermination of all people unlike him, then when called upon to offer proof of such a ludicrous and false claim, offers two quotes NOT from Duke, quotes that do NOT in any remote sense prove your absurd claim, is beyond me. Bizarre.

      And then you shamelessly deny…what you clearly wrote. When proven a liar on that by the simple method of my copying and pasting your writing, you just move onto the next absurd lie. It’s literally lie after lie after lie with you. And you disgustingly call others liars.

      Your disgusting willingness to make false allegations and grossly misrepresent is repugnant, making meaningful debate impossible. Your practice of shamelessly denying what you clearly wrote in earlier posts merely adds to the bizarre nature of your anti-white hatred. If you’re supposed to be on meds, I suggest you get back on them. There is, and I mean this seriously, something wrong with you.

    • I would not and did not deny what I wrote, since it is clearly visible in the thread. You merely have difficulty understanding the attributions. Learn to comprehend what you read by taking trouble to go over it thoroughly instead of shooting from the hip as soon as you think you’ve got the gist.

      Time to quit bickering about who said what about Duke. Bottom line is this:
      Your white skin doesn’t make you a better person than someone who is born with skin of a different colour to yours.
      Your heterosexuality is not a virtue, it is merely a characteristic bestowed upon you by Nature and doesn’t make you superior in any respect so as to give you special rights over a gay person. When you respond sexually to the opposite sex it is instinctive, a spontaneous, not a virtuous act.
      Your gender is innate and doesn’t make you superior or inferior to anyone else, since you didn’t choose it, and a female can be just as virtuous, industrious and intelligent as a male. Same goes for different races and different LGBT orientations.

      It is therefore a serious wrong to extinguish the civil rights of others of a different skin colour to yours, a different gender to yours, or a different gender identity or sexual orientation to yours.

      Your use of sarcasm, personal insult, couched in exaggerated prose and overblown rhetoric doesn’t make you more and more convincing. It is a sign of weak debating skills. Take your cue from Mr Parrott, the custodian of this blog. He and I appear to agree on almost nothing, but he still puts his points with politeness, can back up his claims with evidence, albeit contested, and doesn’t make personal attacks.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “I would not and did not deny what I wrote, since it is clearly visible in the thread.”

      And yet you did exactly that, as any reader can plainly see. Now you deny your denial. How bizarre you are.

      Derek Williams: “Time to quit bickering about who said what about Duke.”

      The only people bickering about that silly issue exist in your fevered imagination. It’s true that your incredibly bad writing and poor sentence structure inevitably creates misunderstanding, and you seem to have a real problem with making clear and proper attributions, something that you should have mastered in high school (yet you claim to work at a university).

      Yet you clarified earlier that the quotes were not from Duke, I accepted that, and nobody cares one way or the other (not that it matters anyway, as the quotes don’t remotely support your disgusting claim, no matter who they are from, and whether they are true or not).

      Yet, weirdly, you keep bringing it up, acting as if that silliness is the source of the argument. It’s not.

      The source of the argument is simple: you outrageously lied about David Duke, claiming that he desires to “exterminate” all those unlike him. Instead of chalking it up to hyperbole, you’ve held fast to your ridiculous lie. When called out on your dishonesty, and when asked to provide proof, you’ve turned, twisted, evaded, and lied some more. In other words, STandard Derek. Shall we call it STD?

      Derek Williams: “Your white skin doesn’t make you a better person than someone who is born with skin of a different colour to yours.”

      LOL! Now back to the defamatory whopper you told about David Duke, this coming from a guy that demands others provide links for 2+2=4 and the sky is blue. But it’s cricket’s chirping, eh?

      Derek Williams: “Your heterosexuality is not a virtue…”

      Quite a few cheerleaders would disagree, but I suppose opinions can vary. Now, back to the issue of your flagrant lying and defamatory comments…

      Derek Williams: “It is therefore a serious wrong to extinguish the civil rights of others of a different skin colour to yours, a different gender to yours, or a different gender identity or sexual orientation to yours.”

      Then it’s a good thing that doing so isn’t my goal. My goal is the establishment of a homeland for our people, and our people alone. We want complete separation from cretins like you, Derek. Let’s just say we have irreconcilable differences, and a divorce is in order.

      Derek Williams: “Your use of sarcasm, personal insult, couched in exaggerated prose and overblown rhetoric doesn’t make you more and more convincing. It is a sign of weak debating skills.”

      Your posts are laced with lies and brazen misrepresentations. You quibble over nonsense, and squirt ink like a squid. You have defamed men far better than you, men who tower over you in quality. Yet you have the gall to cry out in pain from a “lol” or denigrating language, to demand politeness when all you offer is dishonesty and bile. What a vile lunatic you are. Which is to say: just a standard anti-white, only kookier.

      Can anyone blame us for wanting to separate entirely from the likes of this disingenuous lunatic?

    • If you’re so disaffected with the country you live in, no-one is stopping you from “starting your own homeland” of sexist, racist, antisemitic, misogynist white supremacists. Just leave the rest of civilsation to get on with our lives.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “Just leave the rest of civilsation to get on with our lives.”

      LOL! Given that you embody decay and dishonesty, I’m hardly interested in your twisted notions of civilization. Civilization requires honesty and integrity, both of which sorely lack.

      The issue here, despite your childish and transparent attempts to evade, is your ridiculous claim that David Duke advocates the “extermination” of all those unlike him. Readers can see the full quote above.

      I’m happy to remind readers of your defamatory and lying ways, as you continue to prove and reinforce what I’ve said about you: you’re nothing but an anti-white liar. Anti-white liars are in no position to lecture others on any subject. You have, again and again, completely demolished your credibility. You have no one to blame but yourself, and your poor character.

    • I repeat, if you’re so disaffected with the country you live in, no-one is stopping you from “starting your own homeland”.

      You keep calling me “anti-white”, which is impossible, since I am white and so is my whole family. That is therefore a lie. Then you call ME a liar, which is another lie, since a lie is deliberately making a statement that one knows to be false at the time of telling it.

      David Duke as Grand Wizard headed up a chapter of KKK, an organisation dedicated to the eradication of blacks. That isn’t a lie, it’s on the public record. For you to deny this is itself another lie. His website cited above shows that he is antisemitic. For you to deny this is yet another lie, since it too is not only on the public record, he is passionately saying this about himself.

      I know you wear your anti-gay badge with pride, but if you want to avoid allegations of extremism, racism and antisemitism, then you’re holding up the wrong guy as a hero in David Duke. Are you really trying to say that you are not against Jewish people, that you favour equal rights for gays and African Americans, and that David Duke does too?

    • Trainspotter

      Derek Williams: “You keep calling me “anti-white”, which is impossible, since I am white and so is my whole family. That is therefore a lie.”

      Your ignorance is absolutely breathtaking. Anti-whites can come in any race, as should be obvious to a two-bit moron.

      Also, you are clearly anti-white. That’s my label for you, and I consider it appropriate. You call me and others racists, anti-Semites, and other such things. Yawn, and quit trying to change the subject.

      My labels of you, or yours of me, are not at issue. Facts are at issue, and you make false and defamatory claims of fact. You have claimed that Duke advocates the “extermination” of all those unlike him. That’s not a label, that is a claim of fact. You are a liar, and labels have little if anything to do with it.

      Derek Williams: “Then you call ME a liar, which is another lie, since a lie is deliberately making a statement that one knows to be false at the time of telling it.”

      You are deliberately lying, which makes you a liar. You have done this regularly in your previous posts, and in fact tell several obvious whoppers in this very post. If any reader is still paying attention to you, they can peruse as long as their stomach will allow.

      Derek Williams: “David Duke as Grand Wizard headed up a chapter of KKK, an organisation dedicated to the eradication of blacks. That isn’t a lie, it’s on the public record.”

      Even the mild mannered Matt Parrott has corrected you on this defamatory whopper. It is absolutely untrue. Yet you still claim it’s a matter of public record: SHOW IT, liar.

      Derek Williams: “I know you wear your anti-gay badge with pride…”

      No I don’t. In fact, I’ve repeatedly stated that I’m not particularly interested in the subject, and have further stated that there are likely homosexuals who are working for white survival, and I applaud them. I’ve only addressed the matter to the extent necessary to demonstrate your dishonesty over claims of fact, which is clearly how you operate. If all homosexuals were as you, I would of course oppose them and want nothing to do with them. Fortunately, that’s not the case.

      Derek, one can only conclude that you are a congenital liar. I’ve honestly never had a thread war with someone who lies pretty much constantly. That your sick ideology, combined with your poor character, has reduced you to this level is quite telling, as I’m sure the vast majority of readers have so concluded. Now please post the public record of David Duke advocating the “extermination” of all those unlike him. That is a specific claim of fact, and it is false, not that this will have any impact on a lying piece of trash such as yourself.

      (Note to mods): I understand that David Duke is a big boy, and has a long history as a controversial public figure. He probably doesn’t need me white knighting for him. Still, Derek’s claims are defamatory and untrue, and that he is allowed to repeatedly post his false claims here, with no supporting evidence (because there isn’t any) is genuinely disturbing. There is a big difference between inappropriate labels (He’s a racist!!!!) and false, defamatory claims of fact. This is not to mention Derek’s history of dishonesty and misrepresentation of facts on other subjects.

    • LadyGodiva

      Transporter,

      Don’t you wonder what Derek the Traitor thinks of the Jewish media’s canonization of Nelson Mandela, who can be seen on YouTube singing “Kill the Boer”? I mean even if Derek had any proof that Dr. Duke ever advocated killing a single black person, let alone the lot of them, shouldn’t he likewise condemn Mandela and call out the media for implicitly endorsing incitement to genocide against White children in South Africa? Once again, it is clear that these “anti-racists” are really just anti-white.

    • LadyGodiva

      PS sorry about autocorrect messing up your screen name.

    • So to clarify, you claim (contrary to all evidence that I’ve been able to find) that the KKK is not dedicated to the extermination of blacks, David Duke was never a Grand Wizard of it, supports racial equality, LGBT equality and he is not antisemitic. Likewise, that you are in favour of full equality for whites with other races, men with women, and for homosexuals with heterosexuals, and so is Mr Duke?

      Those are the claims I made based on Google, and for me to be accused of lying, they should be untrue. Either that or Google goofed up.

      What is it about Mr Duke that leads you to hold him up as your hero?

    • Trainspotter

      Derek, your false statements only become more and more ludicrous. I didn’t say that David Duke was never part of the KKK. I and others have plainly stated that he left the KKK decades ago (circa 1980, I believe, maybe sooner). This is all clearly visible in this thread, but you shamelessly lie and claim I said otherwise? One genuinely wonders what is wrong with you. Your anti-white ideology combined with your poor character has reduced you to a sniveling piece of trash, with no more credibility than the local junkie or a low IQ hustler.

      The other claims you make in this comment are so bizarre, so obviously ridiculous, that I’ll leave it to the reader to suss out. With you it’s just lie after lie after lie, I’ve never seen anything quite like it.

      This thread is about one thing and one thing only: your ridiculous and defamatory claim that David Duke advocates the “extermination” of all those unlike him. This is absolutely untrue, you have yet to post a quote from Duke supporting this absurd claim (because it doesn’t exist), and yet you have held fast to this outrageous lie. It’s just another example of your constant dishonesty and bizarre behavior, but it does have the benefit of demolishing your credibility, which of course was my goal. Still, it disgusts me that you have been allowed to defame a man that towers above you in quality, so I can’t feel but so good about it.

      Derek Williams: “Those are the claims I made based on Google, and for me to be accused of lying, they should be untrue. Either that or Google goofed up.”

      Google hasn’t “goofed.” You’ve shamelessly lied. Show us the quote from your google search. You can’t because it doesn’t exist. Again, you’re nothing but a two-bit, anti-white liar.

    • Trainspotter

      LadyGodiva, that was an excellent comment, and it alone was worth the time invested in this thread. I’m jealous I hadn’t thought of that example myself!

      But of course, we know the truth as to why the anti-whites are the way they are. Part of the explanation is that the world simply doesn’t work the way the anti-white claims it should, so he either has to reexamine his ideology or he has to start lying. If he chooses the latter, dishonesty becomes a habit as he attempts to suppress all sorts of information, whether it be differentials in IQ, rape and murder statistics, societal trust levels, economic transfers, what have you. As the non-whites pour into formerly white societies, everything declines. They become uglier, dumber, more crass, more violent.

      To be anti-white ends up being anti-reality. In the face of reality, what’s an anti-white to do?

      Some come to see the light, admit the error of their ways, realize the magnitude of the evil they have been supporting, recoil from it, and join the struggle for white survival. These are men and women of character.

      But those that fail to do this end up forfeiting their souls. That may seem a melodramatic way of putting it, but it’s not far from the truth. To them, dishonesty is no big deal, there is no real shame or disgrace in lying, and it eventually becomes second nature. It no longer occurs to them to examine evidence and pursue the truth. Instead, just say whatever needs to be said at the moment, regardless of whether it is true or not. 2+2=5, then a few minutes later it equals 10, then 3, and then something else entirely. Sometimes it even equals 4, but only if it’s convenient. For them, telling the truth is entirely accidental.

      Derek is an extreme case in that he lies about pretty much everything, even things he has no reason to lie about, and where he gains no advantage whatsoever by lying. He is probably only semi-conscious of this, much like the stereotypical junkie or the long time hustler.

      Derek most likely had a weak character starting out in life, which allowed him to lie without too many internal difficulties or feelings of guilt. Combine this with a dim resentment of the traditional order which didn’t particularly approve of his sexual proclivities, add a somewhat envious and spiteful nature, and you’ve got Derek.

      Then by following the anti-white path, the condition only worsened, until finally he ends up as the caricature of himself that we see here today. He’s an extreme case in a sense, but his pattern roughly fits many.

      A thought just occurred to me: we really need a deeper exploration, perhaps a book, of the twisted anti-white psychology. Something that really digs deep, not just a mirror of the pop psychology garbage that our enemy uses to label and propagandize against us.

    • @”Trainspotter

      OK – since you’re all about “honesty”, let’s start with you. I have identified my self by name, location and profession. You on the other hand are conveniently anonymous as “Trainspotter”. I am just as sure your first name isn’t “Train” as I am that your parents are not “Mr and Mrs Spotter”.

    • Trainspotter

      Derek, your juvenile attempt to change the subject is pathetic. I’m not interested in who you are, as you are nothing but a system hack spouting system propaganda. The issue here is your false and defamatory claim about Duke. In spouting brazen lies, you have destroyed your credibility. Enjoy.

    • All of which is abusive bluster, devoid of a single fact in rebuttal. Argumentum ad hominem is not rebuttal.

  • Ingoldo

    So you weren’t joking/high/drunk in the time of that post? Oh my…
    You made more comments under this particular article than I did in the history of Trad Youth Network. I just want to point out that ‘other correspondents’ and me are seperate entites.
    As for your ‘points’: Those number might be correct, might be slightly of even severely off, I can’t tell. Your conclusions, on the other hand, are COMPLETELY ridiculous, and I mean lunatic:
    “David Duke is being held up as an example of your thinking, and its evident that he is intent on extermination of all human beings other than people like himself.”
    Is it evident? By reading two of his books and watching quite a few of his videos, I should have seen it. Could you nudge me in the right direction? Also- he is into his sixties now, isnt he? He should get started with the killings already, he’s got a lot of work to do…
    “Ku Klux Klan, a cowardly group hiding behind masks, dedicated to eradicating all Africans from the face of the Earth, and all Jews and their intermarried descendants.”
    You are just trolling, there is no other way… I mean, how can one even begin to attempt such rubbish?
    There is nothing wrong with a heated debate of people with differing postions, but are just bad joke (or pathetic troll). Just leave. Leave and try to get other group of people to pay you attention, if that is what you crave…

    PS: You seem strangely obssesed(apart from other men’s anuses) with mass killing and genocide. You made more mentions of such terrible atrocities in one short paragaph than all the authors and commenters combined during the time this page has been working. You might be severely mentally disturbed, hopefully not tho’.

    • Is your sarcastic, digressive, sneering and contemptuous language and style of delivery typical of “Christians” who attend your meetings?

      The Ku Klux Klan, whose original name was ‘kuklos’, created a wave of terror which included lynching, arson and murder alongside other crimes to African American people. They continue to this day, but with drastically reduced powers. You deny that they are cowards, but to me they are cowards because if they truly believed that their killing of blacks was morally justifiable, they would proudly and openly declare this with their faces visible. Do you see me hiding behind a mask as a gay man?

      The fact you support this ideology justifies SPLC designating you a hate group, or are you denying these crimes were committed by the KKK just as you deny the Holocaust of the Jews, or do you consider it justifiable homicide?

    • Ingoldo

      -your style doesn’t deserve much more than contempt, that much is true – you’re completely dishonest
      – I’m not really a Christian, find some other tree to bark at
      – the word you were looking for in your pointless(as well as wrong) historical excurse is Greek kyklos – the Klan founder butchered it to ‘Ku-Klux’ for some reason, same with some of their ranks. They might kave had their reasons, I dunno.
      – I sure wish you’d done a bit more(proverbial) hiding, not because of your gayness per se, but because of your obnoxiousness
      -now I’m Holocaust denier as well as ‘hate group’ member/supporter, yay for me
      – it’s 1AM where I live so my last words to you: get lost, you are boring people
      -get lost, you are b…..

    • Are you now denying David Duke’s Ky Klux Klan status?

      A typo of ‘Kyklos’ doesn’t invalidate my whole message, any more than yours do, and unfortunately this site doesn’t permit editing.

      As a supporter of David Duke whose high ranking membership of the KKK, whose policy is extermination of blacks, you are indeed signing up to all the things I said you are. People who support freedom for all don’t belong to the KKK. Duke is likewise a Holocaust denier, and so as one who supports his ideology, it is more rational to assume you are too, since you didn’t publish any disclaimer.

    • * typo: “Ky Klux Klan” should have been “Ku Klux Klan” or “Ku-Klux Klan” if you insist.

  • John

    Derek: I am not aware that David Duke has ever advocated the extermination of anyone. Quite to the contrary, he advocates the right of all groups to their identity and self-respect. He was a Klan leader many years ago, but his particular faction did not condone or practice violence.

    If you disagree, please provide some documentation. I’d like to see it.

    • The KKK is a particularly nasty piece of work, and anyone like David Duke who rose to “Grand Wizard” within its ranks must have espoused its genocidal ideology holus bolus. The mere fact that Duke is considered a role model points to the objectives of the custodians of this blog.

    • Matt Parrott

      David Duke has, for the record, renounced the klan.

      Though even as “Grand Wizard”, his klan tenure was marked by a mighty effort to re-message and re-image the klan into a family-friendly suit-and-tie advocacy organization. At no point has Dr. Duke advocated for the genocide of non-whites, at no point has he advocated terrorism or violence.

      I know that to the typical reader, and especially to the Leftist reader, affiliation with “the klan” ends and settles the debate. But an impartial review of his career and message confirms that while he may not be a saint, he’s certainly never stood for (and actually took the lead in opposing from within) the positions you’re imputing on him.

    • LadyGodiva

      Mr. Parrott,

      Derek the Traitor has no choice but to demonize Dr. Duke, because he has no answer for the extensive documentation on Dr. Dukes website proving conclusively that Jews are not sincere egalitarian Leftists fighting “racism” but rather vicious ethnic warriors who hypocritically push self-destructive universalism on Whites even as they cherish their own identity and defend Israel as a Jewish state.

      Anti-whites do this all the time. They attack the source (ad hominem) and dismiss the evidence a priori, which they know is conclusive and irrefutable.

    • Lady Godiva

      Generalisations like yours don’t strengthen your case. Very few people are wholly good or wholly bad, and you haven’t proven your case for Jew = Bad and Gentile = Good. You simply can’t lump an entire genus of people into the same category. Same goes for this site’s position that Gay = Bad and Heterosexual = Good.

      As for ad hominem, I invite you to cite any examples of where I have used logical fallacy, that comes even close to yours.

    • LadyGodiva

      I just did Traitor Derek. You claim Dr. Duke wishes to exterminate all non-whites, an outrageous slander that should see you banned from this site, then use that claim to justify ignoring his copious evidence of Jewish hatred and perfidy against Whites. That is called an ad hominem.

      You also employ the Straw Man fallacy by attributing to me the idea that there are no good Jews or bad Gentiles. I have not made any such claim as you are well aware.

      You will not acknowledge Jewish hypocrisy and treachery because Jews are your allies in the ongoing project of White Genocide. You homosexuals have decided to help exterminate Whites in exchange for a guarantee of the freedom to engage in sodomy and persecute any who disapprove. You cannot be reasoned with because you will defend the Jews no matter what as they are your allies against traditional Whites.

    • That is the most ridiculous calumny of exaggeration and half truth. The KKK objective is to eliminate non-whites, and Duke was top ranking member of that organisation. Any person who didn’t support its objectives would run a mile from it.

      Your hatred of Jews is likewise irrational. How many Jews have done the wrong thing by you personally? I know plenty of Jews and they’re perfectly nice people. They don’t want to exterminate you, unpleasant as you are. It’s the other way round. Under Nazi policy of genocide they were all but wiped out of Europe. I don’t hear you shedding any tears over that, on the contrary, you seem to support the slander that they’re all treacherous and genocidal.

      “White genocide” is an absolutely ridiculous term, because for a start, Jews are Arabs, but living as whites in the USA. Where are the concentration camps of whites being sent to gas chambers after being worked to death as slave labour? That’s what happened to Jews, but you deny the massive evidence that every other person can see and that I know personally from accounts by survivors of the camps.

      Instead of whining about Jews, why not get out and meet some different people instead of your own narrow group of white supremacist, racist, antisemitic, misogynist homophobes?

    • Trainspotter

      Excellent posts by LadyGodiva.

    • Lew

      The left didn’t much care about Robert Byrd’s Klan affiliation.

  • John

    Documents, please.

  • Orthodox Mike

    Would to the Good Lord that this wailing and bemoaning sodomite get banned from here!!!

    • Your colleagues often accuse LGBT of defining ourselves solely in terms of our sexuality, but your own language makes it clear that that is how YOU define us, as though there is nothing else we do with our lives but copulate. The need to organise ourselves into activist groups would never have existed but for religion based bigotry, laws that imprison us and the denial of civil rights. In the West, thanks to the support of our heterosexual allies, we are nearly approaching equality, with the passage of marriage equality legislation everywhere, but in other countries the situation is dire, with capital punishment for homosexuals in same sex relationships in 7 countries, and incarceration in another 73.

      I’ll certainly stop “wailing and bemoaning” when you (i.e. religious people in the above-mentioned countries), stop persecuting and killing us.

  • Lew

    I renew my request. Please ban lamp, Spelunker and this person. They’re abusing your hospitality. And for what in return? They’re nothing but cliche machines. I was selfishly perhaps hoping for some vigorous in-house discussion on Ukraine. Maybe next time.

    • Niemca

      Not a bad idea, although Lampshades is the one who can’t engage in civil debate…typical YKW…

  • Bulan Sabiel

    A few Neocons and a non-Jewish former Arrow Cross war Criminal (Soros) do not make a Jewish conspiracy. In the real world, Jews are not comfortable with Right Sector, Svaboda and the Ukranians nationalists who look fondly on the SS Galiciener. If you will notice, Israel has stayed neutral.
    But you wont notice, because David Duke fantasies are for the simple minded.


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