Traditionalist Feminism


 

Traditionalist Feminism is the answer contemporary Feminism and capitalist insults against womanhood.

Traditionalist Feminism is the answer contemporary Feminism and capitalist insults against womanhood.

Social Justice theory has defined a great many different types of activist communities, including Feminism.

Social Justice theory often refers to the notion that a given group of people have a diminished or unequal distribution of a given commodity.  “Freedom” is one of the commodities which Social Justice activism concerns itself with.  Other times it has more to do with representation in visual media, which the Bechdel Test seeks to resolve.  However, and more often, Social Justice theory concerns itself with the re-distribution of material goods, wealth and employment.

Feminism is one of these movements which has defined itself through the demands for equal distribution and enjoyment of materials, wealth and employment results (as opposed to employment opportunities).  Make no mistakes, Feminism is an argument in favor of capitalism.  It does not promote Traditionalist values, it does not promote religion, nor does it respect Patriarchal roles.               

Traditionalism promotes the idea that we should all strive to fulfill our most basic stations in life, and part of that means respecting the inherent functions of our body.  A woman should strive to fulfill those stations in life which are unique to herself as a consequence of her body.  Alongside this is the idea that children should be raised by women.  For a variety of reasons, a woman’s tutelage and guidance during a child’s early years is critically important.

Motherhood has a special matriarchal role in a Traditionalist society, as do mature and well educated women.  This is not simple lip service or loose hyperbole in reverence of obscure philosophical theories.  Society is a means towards enlightenment and a  higher spiritual development which rejects materialist interests.  Feminism, as a societal means, does not help a woman to fulfill her basic stations in life, nor does it help her to achieve a spiritual development.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again– If Traditionalism rejected the teaching and influence of women, then you wouldn’t find me in the Traditionalist camp.

Maturity, personal development and self realization are some of the concepts which Traditionalism promotes.  We contend that religion and spirituality are an integral part of a healthy identity and a normal society, and that Feminism detracts from these possibilities.  While Feminism rejects the authority of Patriarchal roles, it is also a rejection of certain Matriarchal roles which are essential to a society.

One of the more extreme implementations of Feminism, or something entirely different, is the degenerate anti-Christian group called Femen.  They reject Patriarchal authority, Traditional roles of womanhood, and Christianity.  This, of course, is in strong opposition to Traditionalism.

While the “activists” of Femen run around Europe defiling themselves and defaming Christianity, Christian Women Against Femen defends Faith, Race and Nation.  Priests are, apparently, unable to respond to Femen protesters in any meaningful way, and short of kneeling in prayer while being assaulted— you won’t see them doing much to stop Femen.

Once, just once, I would like to see a priest take up a Cat ‘o Nine Tails and drive those Femen whores back to the brothels from which they came.

Until then, Christian Women Against Femen is our only answer.  These women aren’t interested in arguing about Social Justice theory.  They aren’t interested in solving the problem of “equal pay for equal work” or the dozens of other problems with capitalism.  These women are interested in one thing only– the future of a people.

Religion is an integrally important part of one’s life, and it is equally important in the development of a State.  Without belief in religion and the aspiration for a higher spiritual development, we will drift deeper into degeneracy.

Italian philosopher Julius Evola helps to put this concept into perspective, describing how a secular State cannot ever legitimately rule over a people, and that it’s only conclusion is degeneracy.

“… a State that lacks a spiritual dimension and a legitimization from above cannot be called a State; not to mention that it is powerless against the arguments advanced by the rationalist, revolutionary, social, and subversive polemics.  The problem that needs to be solved is particularly difficult, considering that today the continuity of dynastic and traditional lineages is broken, [and] we must begin from a pure idea, without the basis of a proximate historical reference.”

Evola’s description of the problem is rather grim, but it’s not hopeless.  He gave us a model for a solution to the problem.  Somewhere, from inside a glacier atop Mt. Rosa, Evola is rolling in his grave and shouting, “Why didn’t you listen?!  You could have stopped this!”  In all seriousness though, Evola told us how to deal with this very problem.

“As in many other domains, here too we will have to settle for provisional solutions.  On the one hand, we will have to uphold principles that have been rigorously formulated; on the other hand, practically speaking, we must be strong enough to follow and to assert them even when the basis they may now have is inadequate.  This is what happens, more or less, in the institutional context, as in an interregnum or a regency.  Thus, the symbol remains, preserves its prestige and authority, is acknowledged, even if temporarily there is no one who can embody it fully and the real leader has only a vicarious position.”

The solution is that we must continue to apply the principles of Traditionalism, maximize on our victories where we make them, and occupy until His return.  We cannot sit idly and “wait” for somebody to lead us into battle against the forces of world degeneracy, and we must take actions in our daily life.


  • Niemca

    TradYouth just gets more ridiculous with each post it seems. I can’t even slog through this crap.

    Bottom Line: How many allies have you made this week, or month?

    I told pro-White friends we’d be seeing at least two new WSU’s across the country by this time.

    Free Matt Heimbach. Someone needs to speak common sense middle class white populism.

    TradYouth is going nowhere.

    • Matt Parrott

      Attacks are generally welcome, but we ask that they be substantive in nature, rather than generic claims that we suck.

    • Niemca

      I thought my criticism was pretty pointed: are you attracting support with this nonsense?

      Not much from what I can see.

      It’s also noteworthy that you make generic claims of black women as so ‘downtrodden and oppressed’ compared to white women with zero substantiation. You, Matt P, are hardly one to make accusations of this nature.

    • Matt Parrott

      It’s also noteworthy that you make generic claims of black women as so ‘downtrodden and oppressed’ compared to white women with zero substantiation.

      The claim actually included not one but two complete articles explaining my statement. Rarely in Internet argument history has a statement been so comprehensively supported.

  • I do agree with Niemca that this article is ridiculous.

    Maybe this is why your movement is such a sausagefest, because you attempt to speak for the women you are trying to attract to your movement, but instead you come off as vulgar and clueless.
    Maybe if you had a woman in your group (who isn’t a John King sock puppet on FB) who could do the outreach for you, and get the points across, instead of one of the dateless wonders of your group who probably doesn’t even know how to talk to a woman face to face, let alone write an article trying to tell them how to think.
    How is this supposed to reach the average woman who might have an interest in your “traditional values”? How is a long dragged out boring article that points out a small fringe extreme sexual liberation group nobody is even paying attention to, with half naked photos of them I might add, going to reach the average traditionalist woman who is busy with their family lives?

    In the real world of politics there is a commonly known syndrome of attracted opposites. Very conservative types of one gender are very attracted to an intrigued by the opposite sex or sometimes even same sex gender in the opposite political camp.

    To be honest with you, I think these kinds of articles from the guys in your group show a hidden attraction to the type of females who are like the
    Femen gals. There is an evident sexual fetish and lust of wanting to tame these overtly sex loving women while craving their freedom in pleasures.

    Then again, I have always said that fascism is a sexual fetish game of setting up ridiculous rules on society and then enjoying the heightened pleasures of the thrill of breaking all of those rules via behind closed doors and other secret spaces.

    IMHO, this article and the article it references that was posted in June prove to me I am onto something.

    • Matt Parrott

      There is an evident sexual fetish and lust of wanting to tame these overtly sex loving women while craving their freedom in pleasures.

      Enough with the fuzzy neo-Freudian pop psych “they’re anti-gay because they’re closeted homos” nonsense. If there’s a point there, other than an aimless insult, you’ll need to actually connect the dots.

      Then again, I have always said that fascism is a sexual fetish game of setting up ridiculous rules on society and then enjoying the heightened pleasures of the thrill of breaking all of those rules via behind closed doors and other secret spaces.

      You overstate your case and make it all twisted and pervy, but there is something to be said for leaving some mystery and initiation in life’s little rituals. Breaking every moral and sexual taboo doesn’t only break families and nations, it saps some of the wonder out of life, too.

    • Matt- I am connecting the dots and I believe I am doing it very accurately. There is no reason what so ever to bring up Femen to the average American constituent. The only explanation I can see is that there is an obsession for the group, their sexual freedom and of course, the boob shots.

      If you read that wiki page on the Madonna-whore complex you might see what I am others see, and that is a male who has a fixation on classifying women as either good girls or bad girls, and this sad little article is a pathetic cry to call to all those Tom thinks are “good girls” and help stop the “bad girls”.

      This isn’t for society, this is because it freaks him out that there are those lusty booby photos coming out of Europe and Eastern Europe and it’s giving him a stiffy. He doesn’t know how to handle it so he writes up crap like this to hide it and to cry for “Madonna” to save him from his lusty thoughts of those bad girls.

      Its totally classic, really, you can try to debase my points all you want, but reality is still the reality and it won’t stop those naughty lusty thoughts you’re having about the forbidden.

      So why don’t you just man up to your own stiffies, you’re scaring away any potential interest for any kind of a female to want to join your clubhouse.

    • Matt Parrott

      There is no reason what so ever to bring up Femen to the average American constituent. The only explanation I can see is that there is an obsession for the group, their sexual freedom and of course, the boob shots.

      We’re all in constant contact with and cribbing notes from Generation Identitaire and other European nationalist and traditionalist groups which are dealing with Femen, so that’s the most parsimonious reason that we bring them up, hardly to an obsessive or unhealthy or “pervy” degree.

      There’s no obsession, fixation, or perversion going on here. You’re getting way carried away about Thomas’s personality and motives, and neither the article nor the actual person bear any relation to the resentful creeper you’re trying to concoct.

      Its totally classic, really, you can try to debase my points all you want, but reality is still the reality and it won’t stop those naughty lusty thoughts you’re having about the forbidden.

      I don’t know about you, but anybody under 40 with Internet access can pretty much enjoy the presence of breasts whenever he likes. The notion that Femen flashed their breasts and blew our minds would perhaps make sense if they were doing it locally, I guess…

    • Well, your paling around with international nationalists is something I have always suspected, and thank you for the confirmation.

      But, again, if the point of your group is to recruit to potential American constituents your knowledge of demographic outreach is in the toilet.

      You cannot convince me that writing up an article about Femen is really about information but about sexual obsession.

      Yes, you don’t have to tell me how to find pron, none of us have any trouble finding it. But, this is not just about boobs, this is about your opposition’s boobs, that makes it extra bad and to a Fascist it makes it even more enticing.
      This is the same reason why so many WN secretly run after secret sexual encounters with nonwhite and Jewish partners.

    • Matt Parrott

      You cannot convince me that writing up an article about Femen is really about information but about sexual obsession.

      Right, because you’re projecting all sorts of diabolical twisted Freudian shit on us. I know. I know.

      This is the same reason why so many WN secretly run after secret sexual encounters with nonwhite and Jewish partners.

      Just a moment ago you claimed we didn’t have any game, now you’re claiming we’re running game all over the place with the chocolate ladies. Make up your mind.

    • HAHAHAA! I wasn’t really referring to you and TYN about the secret encounters.
      Actually, the skin gangs and dress up Nazis tend to be notorious for running after nonwhites and Jewish gals for hush hush play.

      Axis Sally did a few podcasts on this, which is pretty funny. She was a Nazi organizer and running around with black men on the sly for years during that. She claimed many of the guys were doing the same. Many of them have Hispanic girlfriends and it’s a secret badge of honor to make it with a Jewish woman.

      As I stated, all these crazy rules you all set up for yourselves are there for the excitement of breaking them.

      THAT is the true bases of Fascism.

    • Matt Parrott

      Axis Sally did a few podcasts on this, which is pretty funny.

      I listened to all of those, and, personally, I was surprised by how little dirt she had to dish out given how much access she had.

      And that’s our cautionary tale against eagerly flattering and promoting women just to have prominent women in the movement. There are several women who are very supportive and actively involved, but I fully agree we need to learn how to more effectively speak to and act on their concerns.

    • Matt- While I agree that “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” and some of the best 411 we have ever received was from ex- girl friends and ex-wives of those in the movement, do not discount that there are just as many men you your movement doing the same thing.

      They just are more quiet about it.

      Axis Sally did reveal quite a bit, but she also expressed that she was scared to go full monty with the info. And you do know that she sent us two big boxes of her WN paraphernalia, she admitted this in public.

      Matt, I think you guys will always have issues with attracting women to the group because WN is a shitty climate for women from within the movement.

    • Matt Parrott

      Lamp,

      Matt, I think you guys will always have issues with attracting women to the group because WN is a shitty climate for women from within the movement.

      Unless it stops being a shitty climate for women…

    • Edward

      What outreach do nationalists need? We aren’t selling anything except survival. If you’re a normal white working class woman, it’s in your interest to be a racial nationalist, because if not people like “Liberty Lamp” will finish grad-school, get a public sector job, and continue to swarm your neighborhood with blacks and browns that are statistically hundreds of times more likely to rape and kill you. Of course, Liberty Lamp will continue living in Silver Lake, Pilsen , Williamsburg, or whatever upper middle class, 90% white, “bohemian” dickhead neighborhood you transplanted yourself to.

      There is nothing to sell or convince women about. All we have to do is report the facts. If that isn’t good enough for many women, and it’s still a “sausage fest”, that isn’t really a big deal, since we are here to change policies in our homeland, not throw a house party. The only reason FEMEN exists is because there are wealthy Jewish businessmen funding them. Ditto for Pussy Riot and it’s U.S. State Department financed “music video”. Most of those “activists” in FEMEN started as Ukrainian hookers, by the way. It’s all theatrics financed by big capital, just like any other Leftist “movement” that actually goes beyond smashing a few windows.

    • Edward

      Hey Liberty Lamp, has it ever occurred to you that you need to CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE?

      FACT: Virtually all of the main Feminist theorists are Jewish, Lesbian, or both. You say women will never listen to a man when it comes to women’s issue, but why should a White Christian woman listen to a Jewess on her issues? Why should a heterosexual woman listen to what a carpet-muncher (90% of those “strong powerful women” in your movement) says about abortion, or power relations between men and women in a family?

      Members of 2% of the American population come up with 90% of kooky Leftist theories. That’s the definition of a racist dictatorship over ideas, which only grow legs thanks to the money your “above-ground” Leftist lobbies receive from big business and the US government. Feminism, as the article states, only benefits capitalism, statistics from after women flooded the labor market will show that.

      As Spengler once said, there has yet to be a time in history where the Left hasn’t been in service of big capital.

  • Niemca

    Femen is an eastern european based feminist group. It doesn’t have much to do with the US. It also was founded in defiance of the slave trade of middle and eastern european females (run by mostly by jews; look up William Pierce’s writings on the Russian mafia, aka jewish mafia, and the sex slave trade).

    So TYN is for the sexual enslavement of white women by jews apparently.

    FYI, in America, one doesn’t reference ‘feminism’ much anymore in some monolithic or essentializing way. It pretty much ended as an actual movement, as opposed to a school of intellectual/academic thought, at least a decade or more ago. So Tom can’t even find a cogent point of departure. He criticizes something that really doesn’t exist, while also defending something in a global context – sexual enslavement, of white women no less – that does.

    In short, this is just nonsense. It’s as if you cowards hate women so much and are desperate to etiologize your failures as pro-White activists in those g**d*** ‘feminazis.’ It’s pretty standard MO in this noxious pandemic of IBS otherwise known as the pro-White ‘movement.’

    And another FYI: you do not speak for White men. I am a very proud White woman raised by real White men, and they would laugh and deride your silly chest-thumping.

    You guys can’t even do tribal. You’re appallingly and gallingly and embarrassingly bourgeious.

    My tribe were the celts and the germanics, which both in Europe and especially in America are not fully divisible from one another. True White men walk in peace and harmony with the women of their tribe. Study a little history, real stuff, not this silly shit you pass off as ‘intellectualism.’

    I don’t know why I waste my time on here.

    Free Matt Heimbach

    • I agree, I see little in what Femen has anything to do with anything happening in the United States.
      There is a very small anti-slut shaming movement that pop up with lusty walks or marches here and there, but this isn’t a major movement by any means.

      This is just an extension of a Madonna-whore complex and castration fears by the writer of this tripe.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna–whore_complex

    • Niemca

      This micro-micro meme of micro miniskirts and bras worn as clothing is really just an excuse for chubby plain girls to get attention. It’s not really related to any of the few memes of ‘activist feminism’ that still exist. I don’t know one who would take these attention-seekers seriously for a second.

      I think some of these girls, however, would make great dates for Matt Parrotts and Tom Foolery.

    • Lew

      I was going to respond to your hyperbolic comments which quite frankly have me scratching my head. Instead, can I just ask, respectfully, what in your view is TYN doing that it should not be doing, and not doing that it should be?

    • Niemca- I think Tom’s comment on how he wants these naughty girls whipped with cat o nine tales reveals a strange little peek into a weird sexual fetish.
      Now there are thousands of healthy couples who enjoy mutual bedroom activities that involve these kinds of things. But, they are between two consenting adults.
      When it comes from the twisted mind of a creepy 30+ yr old guy who spends most of his time in a college campus around girls who 10 yrs younger than he is and are not returning his attentions, it has reached a disturbing level.

      I am not saying that Tom is going to harm any of these girls, at least I hope he wouldn’t, but I don’t think he is a sexually adjusted and socially healthy person.

    • Matt Parrott

      When it comes from the twisted mind of a creepy 30+ yr old guy who spends most of his time in a college campus around girls who 10 yrs younger than he is and are not returning his attentions, it has reached a disturbing level.

      Thomas is quite the gentleman and has plenty of female friends and dates in the appropriate age range.

      Not to be a patriotard, but I think it’s kind of offensive to accuse a guy who served three foreign tours during his twenties of being a perv for cashing in now on the education benefits that he’s definitely earned.

    • Yeah Matt, I can see the overwhelming interest women have in you guys by how many of them show up in support for your sign holding rallies….

    • Matt Parrott

      Yeah Matt, I can see the overwhelming interest women have in you guys by how many of them show up in support for your sign holding rallies…

      It would help if your buddies weren’t in the habit of specifically targeting them for insults, attacks, and humiliation.

    • Yeah, you can’t get dates because 90 pound vegans in black hoodies say mean things to you…

    • Matt Parrott

      Yeah, you can’t get dates because 90 pound vegans in black hoodies say mean things to you…

      More like your friends turning the daily waking lives of female nationalists into a living hell with weekly rape and murder threats. In all my experience in the movement, I’ve seen nothing as maliciously sadistic as what y’all serve up when a young woman puts her neck on the line.

    • I’m not buying it Matt. I have been in my movement for almost 10yrs and I have never seen what you claim. In fact there is a very loud obnoxious outspoken young woman from PA who was at the Leif Ericsson day rally who has been declared “off limits” by our side because her life is so messed up.

      We have never gone after your former wife, even though we all know she was involved with the movement.

      The only female who I saw getting messed with was Megham White because she some crazy porn video of her showed up.

      Nobody has even bothers Schoep’s wife and she is a stripper.

      There are no women at your rallies because you can’t attract them to your group, period.

      Take responsibility for it and be a man and own up to it.

    • Matt Parrott

      I’m not in a situation to get specific, but you’re off base on the targeting and harassment.

      It’s no secret that our movement struggles to engage females. I figured dissecting and destroying manosphere bloggers’ arguments would be a sure bet, and we see how that played out.

    • Matt- I know I am giving you free advice, but for the record an article like this is a bad idea.
      It doesn’t read well, and if I am off base with the Freudian analysis, this article is not a very good for disproving my theories.
      This is not a way to reach women, it reads twisted and perverted.

    • Niemca

      Matt P, you are the one purposely avoiding real issues. First, you refuse to address the question of whether TYN supports the sexual enslavement (primarily by jews) of white eastern european women. This was the main issue which instigate the formation of Femen.

      Second, can you please ‘support’ your contention that black women are oppressed in comparison to white women with some kind of evidence that is objective and not related to manosphere-associated sources.

  • civil rights apostate

    Although I probably agree with this article, I don’t think you should put pictures of these femen up, especially since there are so many young men like me viewing this site.

    • Niemca

      Frankly, I’d rather TYN actually jerked off than mentally masturbate. At least that’s real.

      Gloves came off on here when Matt P decided to go manosphere.

    • Matt Parrott

      Gloves came off on here when Matt P decided to go manosphere.

      I didn’t decide to go manosphere. Read the article again, slowly, after realizing that the whole point and thesis of the article was to take an accusation he made at one specific gender and make it equally on both genders. That’s challenging the manosphere, arguing with it, the polar opposite of what you’re accusing me of doing.

      If you think our work sucks, fine. But you didn’t seem to think that until you completely missed the point of one single blog post of mine, after which you concluded that not only am I evil, but every aspect of the project except Heimbach is evil. Take some time to google my myriad arguments with the manosphere and ask some people who know me how I handle myself in my private life before you go on concluding that I’m a vulgar misogynist.

    • Niemca

      One of us is definitely crazy, or…just sneaky and merely semi-delusional. I *did* read your article about women, and re-posted one whole paragraph for you in which women are described pretty categorically. This is where you’re full of shit. You say, well I’m going to trash white women but pretend that it’s a lesson to us all. I’d like to see the paragraph which addressed the parallel issue in men, Matt…but I couldn’t find it! Goshdarnit!

      I have been hanging out and wondering where all this is going. Your vulgar, misogynist post (and by only linking to such overt vulgarity you somehow seem to think you can avoid taking responsibility for posting it) and the related thread revealed there’s not much more to wait around for, basically. You’re a misogynist and a poser to boot. You think you’re going to be some ‘vanguard’ and that you’re this exalted Platonic superior being who will lead the blind, dumb, and if you’re female fat, stupid, ugly and self-indulgent, masses who are too stupid and philistine (and morally inferior) to see and act out of their own conviction.

  • Dustin

    I cannot believe what I am reading here. Traditionalist Feminism?!?!? Isn’t that like Circular Square?!?

    I became interested in TradYouth because I thought Matthew Heimbach was on target. He was absolutely on target about America being a “proposition nation” as well as about the truth about “freedom”. I thought that other authors here had similar views. I thought that this was going to be the end of the “nice guy” era in rightism. Right now though I’m seeing the exact opposite.

    Also, why are you still allowing Liberty Lamp to spread his communist and feminist propaganda on this website? Why are you still allowing him to put links in his name to his radical communist website? Why are you still allowing him to spread his communist flag with its Soviet-style star all across this website?

    Also,

    When it comes from the twisted mind of a creepy 30+ yr old guy who spends most of his time in a college campus around girls who 10 yrs younger than he is and are not returning his attentions, it has reached a disturbing level.

    Thomas is quite the gentleman and has plenty of female friends and dates in the appropriate age range.

    This completely misses the point. One of the biggest weapons in the feminist arsenal are words like “creepy” and “disturbing”. Being called “creepy” in a feminist society like ours is like being called a “deviationist” in the USSR. We need to fight against that label every time leftists whip it out against us, not try to plead with them that we’re “not creepy” any more than we would try to plead with the hammer-and-sickle crowd that we’re “not deviationists”. Also, historically, many men married much younger women. This is natural because the man has to be the leader of his family and the head of the church (or temple) of his family.

    Also, with regard to attracting women to the movement: I don’t understand why women have to be political activists in the first place. The notion that there has to be some sort of “gender parity” of activists in our movement is simply false. Again, historically, politics has been the domain of men, not women. This is for unchangably biological reasons.

    Lastly, I’m not saying all this to be overly critical of the website. I have a busy life and plenty of other things to do. My purpose behind my criticisms of this group is because I have great hopes for it and I don’t want to see it fall off the trail like so many other rightist groups have done, and it is so easy to get knocked off the trail in our age when leftism is in the air we breathe.

    • Matt Parrott

      Also, why are you still allowing Liberty Lamp to spread his communist and feminist propaganda on this website?

      Because, as I’ve explained repeatedly, I believe we can beat them in a fair rhetorical fight and I think our arguments and ideas are improved and strengthened when challenged. Of course, I’ve already explained my decision to you repeatedly, and I’m aware of your opinion about it.

      We need to fight against that label every time leftists whip it out against us, not try to plead with them that we’re “not creepy” any more than we would try to plead with the hammer-and-sickle crowd that we’re “not deviationists”.

      No. “Creepy” isn’t a “Leftist” term, it’s a female term. Since the dawn of time, women have had a certain sense for men who are dangerous or disturbed. It’s a term that’s used more in apolitical social situations than political ones, though it is sometimes inappropriately leveraged in political contexts to silene dissent.

      The idea that the word is some sort of anti-male epithet is MRA propaganda with no utility outside that scene. A movement which claims to focus on families and communities definitely ought to ensure that it’s effectively communicating with, engaging with, and reaching women. We’re trying to do that, here, perhaps with mixed results.

      But we’ll keep working at it until we get it, because they’re an integral part of the team.

      Also, with regard to attracting women to the movement: I don’t understand why women have to be political activists in the first place.

      Agreed, sort of. I don’t think we should necessarily weigh our success our lack of success in quotas, striving until we reach some sort of 50% benchmark. Even the anti-White and mainstream events are overwhelmingly packed with dudes. For a variety of general and specific reasons, we just can’t expect women to be all that visibly supportive of our work at this stage in the game, but having only a few (cherished) female supporters is indeed a problem and indicates that we need to improve what we’re doing.

      Lastly, I’m not saying all this to be overly critical of the website.

      I appreciate that, and we genuinely do actively discuss and consider the constructive criticism we receive.

    • Gee Dusty, maybe the best way to do away with the creepy label is to stop being creepy. Matt is right, terms like creepy are labeled on men who people (not just women) think are unsavory.

      I would think a man who advocates for clergy to publicly whip women, and not only that but link to the specific type of whip to be used, should be called “creepy”.
      Would you want someone like that to be around your sister or daughter?

      Your movement is a creep magnet, especially when it comes to those who have and are problems for women.

      Do you know how many beaten and abused ex-GFs and ex-wives from your movement we have had to get help for?
      And look at you, you don’t even want women to be a part of your movement, talk about another WN with women issues.
      Fine, keep your movement a boy’s club, it only works out better for us.
      We have plenty of women in our movement. Strong, smart and powerful women, and if you haven’t noticed we always come out ahead in numbers and public appeal.

      Keep alienating, keep coming off and threatening and hostile, and spewing demented latent wild lusts for whipping women, you are doing our job for us.

    • Dustin

      White nationalism is a red herring. It’s time is over, just like your time is over (and has been since 1991). The reason why your movement is so obsessed with white nationalists is because white nationalism is the only kid on the playground that is “littler” than you. You are the second littlest kid on the playground, far littler than most of the other kids. So you beat up on the only kid that you can.

  • Edward

    What political course women take is by and large irrelevant to radical politics. That Judeo-Anarchist “The Liberty Lamp” throwing out Freudian junk science should know, the only women “radical Left” circles get are dykes, the obese, and a few Crusty/punk junkies.

    Fact of the matter is women are biologically wired to respect authority and follow the crowd by and large. The only way TYN could win over the majority of women is simply by taking power, or in the meantime, acting like real men and standing up for your beliefs, not pandering to them like a Republican or a Democrat . As someone with experience organizing politically, I’ll actually recommend that you keep women out or separate while the movement is small, since often time they take up more attention than the politics do.

    And stop playing games and wasting time with these Leftist types. They are the last to talk, for all their talk about the proletarian and “people of color”, in real life they are by and large a bunch of rich white millenial assholes. Sometimes they’ll find a black group that wants to attack white people to “ally” with, but if you ran on a platform of killing all homosexuals and giving their money to blacks you’d get nearly 100% of the black vote too! Hahaha.

    • Dustin

      Edward, for the most part I could not agree more. I wouldn’t go so far as to keep women out, but I would not put any extra time or energy into efforts to attract them as a group, like so many rightist groups have decided to do recently for whatever reason.

      As for the rest of your post I agree completely.

  • Dustin

    The idea that the word is some sort of anti-male epithet is MRA propaganda with no utility outside that scene.

    I was part of that scene actually for a significant amount of time before ever becoming involved with general far-right groups like this. We had a decent number of female supporters actually. Nowhere near 50-50, but more than “only a few” which is what you say your group has. If “creepy” is truly a legitimate, female-invented term with a legitimate purpose, then why has a movement that flatly rejects that term been more successful in attracting women than your group, which accepts that term as legitimate?

    More importantly, I do not see why that scene should be divorced from this scene. I was thrilled when I found out that at the NPI conference there was an antifeminist activist who got to speak. A true union of the two “scenes” I am convinced would be powerful enough to defeat the leftists.

    • Dustin

      Before I go to bed I want to conclude by saying that feminism is an invention of feminist men, not of women (feminist or non-feminist). Also, what wasn’t talked about in this article is that the person who runs FEMEN is a man (Victor Svyatski), not a woman.

      What’s more, feminism depends directly upon a cadre of overwhelmingly male cops, judges, bailiffs, and prison guards to enforce feminist laws. Either these men agree with feminism, or they’re just robots who don’t really care about the consequences of their actions. Either of which is morally reprehensible.

      But more importantly, if this cadre were ever to fail, as they did in their battle against Beatty Chadwick, feminism would collapse overnight. Beatty Chadwick has blazed the trail, has proved it is possible to defeat them, it is up to us as strong antifeminist men to follow in his wake.

    • Dustin

      Link to the part about Beatty Chadwick is here. For some reason it was broken in my previous post.

    • Facom….

      Naturally the people who attended the NPI conference like myself are against “feminism”, which is really a single tentacle of modernity. I don’t understand the manospheres criticism toward the NPI and TY movement, were are all in the fight against the dominating hegemony of today. Unless someone has some specifics, I’m always interested in hearing if I’m wrong.

    • Dustin

      Andrew,

      When I was a younger, college-aged man, the two groups would not even talk to each other at all except to fire off insults at each other.

      I did not attend the NPI conference, but I am still so thrilled that an antifeminist/MRA was actually invited as a speaker to the conference because there was a time when it seemed inconceivable that even that level of cooperation and dialogue was possible between the two groups. I hope so much that this is just the beginning of more of the same to come.

      By the way, I’m also thrilled that at least some of the NPI crowd (i.e., white racial activists) now seems willing to consider solutions other than a Westphalian-style ethno nation state.

      I am not going to lie when I say that white racial activists and antifeminists/MRAs are two of the most powerless groups in Western society right now, especially the former since they don’t have a Beatty Chadwick-like figure who has actually beaten the system that they can rally around. That’s ultimately why the antifa-types pick on you guys. Their group (commies) is powerless, too, but white nationalists are even more powerless. White nationalists need to drop “white nationalism” and look into other solutions. Then, antifeminists/MRAs need to hop on board. That will create a much more powerful group than what exists right now.

    • Andrew

      I’m actually interested in both ideas or movements. I’m not sure the manosphere is considered a movement, but it sure is inspiring as is Traditionalist Youth and NPI. As a white male, I wouldn’t want one without the other.

    • KO

      Dustin,
      Regarding the weakness of white nationalism. Whenever I put in my two cents, I try to urge Mr. Parrott and Mr. Heimbach not to hamper their traditionalist activism with antisemitism and racism. Why make yourself an easy target for law enforcement and the military when the going gets tough? Providing a prosperous, spiritually whole future for our people is the core task, not dwelling on specific noxious groups. The future society will be based on communities formed in survival and struggle; not by ideology tests or scientific racism. Neopopulism as Counterculture points towards revolutionizing our current government on the basis of the people’s common sense, common language, and religious tradition. That is traditionalism without the adventitious rationalism of racism and antisemitism. Mindweapon is also inspiring with his optimistic view of people’s ability to adapt to the eventual collapse of the “corn-syrup cornucopia.” Messrs. Parrott and Heimbach have courage and talent and should look for broader fields of action.

  • Andrew

    While there isn’t really a feminist movement in the U.S., the effects of that type of thinking is apparent in American girls. “Femen” is interesting and important to write about. They claim to detest oppression yet think of themselves and other women as organic mass with no adherence to any higher purpose and violently despise those who think otherwise. American girls aren’t conscious of this type of influence in contemporary life. It’s “normal” for them unfortunately. Just ask what their views are on abortion or religion. I’m glad Christian Women Against Femen are around, they are elevating themselves and others.

    • Goldberry

      As a single mom my interest is in the safety, education, and spiritual development of my girls. The best society on earth to ensure these interests is in their own natural white society. Non-whites and anti whites know this, and it is demonstrated when they move their children into our schools, neighborhoods, and nations. I agree that men will naturally attract women by being traditional men. Continue being what you are Matt. When we see you facing off in the street against these antifa that have the system behind them that is what will attract a real woman. We know they do not stand for anything of value to us.

      You do need to work on your marketing a bit. I know that your intentions are sincere and that you love the women of your people. It should be remembered that men are only half of the dwindling 60% of the US white population. You are both genuine and wise in your inclination to reach out to us.

      Feminism isn’t a movement because it has permeated our society almost completely. Like the rest of the secularist religion, we as women don’t even realize how afflicted we are with alien values and unnatural ways of living.

      Just keep being fierce, brave, and true to yourself.

Traditionalist Feminism is the answer contemporary Feminism and capitalist insults against womanhood.

By: Thomas Buhls



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